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Old 11-27-2018, 03:50 PM   #15
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This has literally nothing to do with how much they spent on the unit or what corners they cut. They didn't save a single dollar or man-hour of work by having the head unit be s**tty. I can get an $8 portable bluetooth speaker at the supermarket that works better, and that includes the speaker driver and a battery. The software in this head unit is simply poorly designed and it would take them minimal effort to sort it out if they were so inclined.
you just answered your own question...they weren't inclined to do it because in the end, they did save the money and we get an affordable car that is focused on driving....why else do you think this was a cost savings project split between Toyota and Subaru to begin with?
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Yeah, that's a shame. Designed correctly, embedded versions of Linux can boot in 1-2 seconds and then a head unit based on Linux could recognize that it should just function as a Bluetooth receiver (if it was set to that mode the last time it was used) and start doing that. Initializing all the other features could be done afterwards, in parallel, in the background.

Thanks for letting me know that other head units are also kinda s**tty these days. I was worried about that possibly being the case if I tried to solve the problem by buying another head unit.
The Pioneer AVH-2330NEX that I installed in my BRZ is by no means s**tty. BT connects within a couple of seconds from bootup... unlike the factory head unit that often took half a minute or more and then was very unreliable in displaying the correct track information. Even after the factory HU finally connected, it sounded like garbage and was very laggy in operation. The Pioneer HU is quick to boot up, connect and operate and sounds exponentially better. I use Android Auto 99% of the time and it is connected and ready to go before I even finish backing out of the garage.
That being said... if you totally cheap out and buy some sub $100 head unit, it may very well be just as frustrating to use as the factory pile of trash. Buy a decently high end head unit or hold your breath until you pass out waiting for Subaru to do something about it, it's up to you. Even the upgraded factory head unit in the 2018 Limited BRZ would be better than the 6.2" system found in the 2017 or in the Premium 2018 BRZ.
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Old 11-27-2018, 04:01 PM   #17
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you just answered your own question...they weren't inclined to do it because in the end, they did save the money and we get an affordable car that is focused on driving....why else do you think this was a cost savings project split between Toyota and Subaru to begin with?
Oh come on. You're acting like the software for this head unit was designed exclusively for the BRZ.

The head unit is also used in the base model Forester. Do you think it's shitty in the Forester because the Forester is a joint venture between Toyota and Subaru where the top priority was making it (the Forester) a driver-focused sports car?
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would it be an easy swap to go from the premium brz head unit to the limited one? i have a 2018 premium model and ya it lags bad at start up i use amazon music and i cant get the track info to show up

im gonna see what the starlink app does maybe that will help but overall ya not impressed. i did buy the premium with the long term intention to switch to a android headunit
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would it be an easy swap to go from the premium brz head unit to the limited one? i have a 2018 premium model and ya it lags bad at start up i use amazon music and i cant get the track info to show up

im gonna see what the starlink app does maybe that will help but overall ya not impressed. i did buy the premium with the long term intention to switch to a android headunit
I've read some posts saying that it isn't hard to swap the units but I don't know where to get a cheap 7" Starlink unit. They probably cost a fortune from the dealership. Probably much cheaper to just buy an aftermarket one, although I've been reading some threads about aftermarket head units and they don't have that weird trapezoid shape of the stock units and I'm not sure if anybody has come up with a super good looking solution to that problem.
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maybe it's your phone
Everybody seems to agree that the 6.2" unit takes forever to pair. We can't all have problematic phones.

Also, my phone (an iPhone 6S) works perfectly with every other Bluetooth thing I've ever used it with... I use it with a pair of Bluetooth earbuds almost every day...
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ya looks like aftermarket is the way to go...
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I think it's due to some shitty headunits.
The few local guys 4 of us been talking about the Bluetooth. Two of them have issues one of them has a '14 BRZ premium one year newer than mine and his headunit has a long time connecting to Bluetooth. Where as mine takes about 40 seconds.

We both synced out iPhones in both cars, he had zero problems in my car, I had to wait about two minutes to finally connect. So eh? Who knows.
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I've read some posts saying that it isn't hard to swap the units but I don't know where to get a cheap 7" Starlink unit. They probably cost a fortune from the dealership. Probably much cheaper to just buy an aftermarket one, although I've been reading some threads about aftermarket head units and they don't have that weird trapezoid shape of the stock units and I'm not sure if anybody has come up with a super good looking solution to that problem.
The OEM 7" head units are well north of a grand based on what has been said in other threads.
The Scosche SU2032B Dash Kit looks great, it matches the OEM black plastic radio surround perfectly.
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