2018 BRZ Special Edition at Boxerfest - Rumors

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Drambeenie

Subaru refuses to give this thing more power, other than a 5hp boost for the PP. so maybe max they give it 10. That make an STI? They've publically talked about how they don't want to give this car more power, even in the next generation car

The 5 wasn't just for the PP. It had nothing to do with the PP for that matter. Not everybody (i.e. Europe) even got the 5 and Canada got the 5 but no PP.

[funwheeldrive]

Originally Posted by yelsew

Maybe I'm just jaded by every rumor that popped up and was proven false?

IIRC, this is the first time a test car like this has been spotted in the States. All the other rumors were based on concept cars or rumors. This one is actually roaming the streets. It's no longer a matter of "If", but "When".

Originally Posted by Drambeenie

Subaru refuses to give this thing more power, other than a 5hp boost for the PP. so maybe max they give it 10. That make an STI? They've publically talked about how they don't want to give this car more power, even in the next generation car

Maybe they won't increase power, but you can bet Subaru will give this car more than a body kit and wing.

[Drambeenie]

Originally Posted by funwheeldrive

Maybe they won't increase power, but you can bet Subaru will give this car more than a body kit and wing.

What are your thoughts on what they'll offer additionally?

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by funwheeldrive

IIRC, this is the first time a test car like this has been spotted in the States. All the other rumors were based on concept cars or rumors. This one is actually roaming the streets. It's no longer a matter of "If", but "When".



Maybe they won't increase power, but you can bet Subaru will give this car more than a body kit and wing.

It will also have the PP. And logos.

[funwheeldrive]

Originally Posted by Drambeenie

What are your thoughts on what they'll offer additionally?

Even more suspension and drivetrain upgrades compared to the PP. Probably Recaro seats and better interior pieces. I couldn't see them doing less than that.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by funwheeldrive

Even more suspension and drivetrain upgrades compared to the PP. Probably Recaro seats and better interior pieces. I couldn't see them doing less than that.

Either they will keep the upgrades to parts bin stuff and some fancy bits or the price will go so high that nobody will buy it anyway. It will be very interesting to see what it actually comes with though.

[DSOmegaX]

Originally Posted by funwheeldrive

Even more suspension and drivetrain upgrades compared to the PP. Probably Recaro seats and better interior pieces. I couldn't see them doing less than that.

No recaros. You can see the interior in the spy shots. Standard seats with just a different color scheme

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by DSOmegaX

No recaros. You can see the interior in the spy shots. Standard seats with just a different color scheme

In other words the standard Special Edition fare.

[Drambeenie]

Originally Posted by DSOmegaX

No recaros. You can see the interior in the spy shots. Standard seats with just a different color scheme

The recaros are the only thing I want.

[funwheeldrive]

Originally Posted by DSOmegaX

No recaros. You can see the interior in the spy shots. Standard seats with just a different color scheme

That would be sad if that's the case for the final product.

The recaro seats are my favorite part of the tS.

[DSOmegaX]

Originally Posted by funwheeldrive

That would be sad if that's the case for the final product.

The recaro seats are my favorite part of the tS.

It's cause this car technically isn't a tS. It's just a package STi put together for the car. There hasn't been a tS developed in Japan for the 2017+ BRZ yet so you wouldn't see the same type of upgrades as the the 2013 and 2015 models.

[funwheeldrive]

Originally Posted by DSOmegaX

It's cause this car technically isn't a tS. It's just a package STi put together for the car. There hasn't been a tS developed in Japan for the 2017+ BRZ yet so you wouldn't see the same type of upgrades as the the 2013 and 2015 models.

I would think a STi package would be treated as equal or superior to the tS though. Isn't that how it's viewed in Japan anyways? Don't they have a tS and STi WRX in Japan?


I know America usually gets Japan's scraps, but I would think Subaru would go all out with this car if they are throwing the STi badge on it.

[DSOmegaX]

Originally Posted by funwheeldrive

I would think a STi package would be treated as equal or superior to the tS though. Isn't that how it's viewed in Japan anyways? Don't they have a tS and STi WRX in Japan?


I know America usually gets Japan's scraps, but I would think Subaru would go all out with this car if they are throwing the STi badge on it.

WRX STi is a model designation. There's a WRX tS, but the equivalent car for a WRX STi is the s207. Both tS and s207 see development and testing by STi, typically by their resident test driver on the Nurburgring.

It won't be equivalent because the us version wouldn't have had any of that. What I meant is that it would just be an accessories package out together by STi. The tS had those things, but also included a lot of incremental changes beneath the surface that people don't notice, including a stiffer rear subframe, stiffer mounts etc. I can guarantee these things would not make it over into the car.

[DSOmegaX]

Originally Posted by funwheeldrive

I would think a STi package would be treated as equal or superior to the tS though. Isn't that how it's viewed in Japan anyways? Don't they have a tS and STi WRX in Japan?


I know America usually gets Japan's scraps, but I would think Subaru would go all out with this car if they are throwing the STi badge on it.

I think people are disappointed because of how people outside of Japan have perceived the STi brand. We've only had the WRX STi as a model, but STi as the aftermarket arm has been making more minor upgraded models in Japan for years (the tS line among others). TS models have always been about making improvements to the handling and ride over power (legacy tS, forester tS, exiga tS, etc. have all followed similar development)