Those with 240 wbhp wish they had more, like closer to 300 wbhp?

[LBC Por Siempre]

Originally Posted by King Tut

With the factory tires coming in at 215 width and the fenders only allowing a 265-275 width tire to be mounted I feel like 300+ whp and 250+ ft/lbs is the sweet spot for this car. If you want to run less tire, then I would recommend running less power. That is all assuming you enjoy grip and not tire smoke.

For sure, if you're going over 200bhp youre going go need a wider tire. I dont know who the hell decided on such a narrow wheel, 7 frigen inches... Its like they want you to lose grip and drive like a “Yarbough like Jeremy Clarkson". One of the first things you do when you update to F/I is to get wider wheels.

[LBC Por Siempre]

Originally Posted by King Tut

Should have gotten a turbo then.

I prefer a super charger since it looks much cleaner, the install though I know there are folks out there can do a father clean Turbo install.

[LBC Por Siempre]

Originally Posted by King Tut

I like your babbling. Running traction control on a Porsche can kill a set of rear brake pads in a weekend.

No no no no, the whole idea is replacing the Carbon Ceramic brake disk in the rear. And it generally cost as much as the option for all four wheel from the factory. That is why a lot of GT3 owners who outfit their allotment from Porsche just get Steal brakes and no Sport Chrono - Or what is known as the Dash Wart.

[King Tut]

Originally Posted by LBC Por Siempre

No no no no, the whole idea is replacing the Carbon Ceramic brake disk in the rear. And it generally cost as much as the option for all four wheel from the factory. That is why a lot of GT3 owners who outfit their allotment from Porsche just get Steal brakes and no Sport Chrono - Or what is known as the Dash Wart.

I know that alot of them swap the CCBs out, but the traction control system on a Porsche loves using the rear brakes hard to keep the car from rotating so owners can kill a set of rear brake pads in a weekend even with little wear to the fronts. I ordered my Cayman R without Sport Chrono specifically because I didn't want the dash wart.

[kaybee123]

When I first moved towards 240whp I thought... wow, this is MUCH faster than before.

After a year of driving, I'm used to it now and although I believe it is the best amount of power for me, it would be nice to have a little more. (Of course, I'm assuming that I would be saying the same thing no matter which power level I was at).

I'm still on the stock tires so it's enough power to scare me... and definitely enough to get me in trouble. 300 would be nice but I'd probably be worried of blowing things up.

[xxscaxx]

Originally Posted by kaybee123

When I first moved towards 240whp I thought... wow, this is MUCH faster than before.

After a year of driving, I'm used to it now and although I believe it is the best amount of power for me, it would be nice to have a little more. (Of course, I'm assuming that I would be saying the same thing no matter which power level I was at).

I'm still on the stock tires so it's enough power to scare me... and definitely enough to get me in trouble. 300 would be nice but I'd probably be worried of blowing things up.

Like you said, no matter the power level, you always get used to it at some point.

I had a lot of power in my old sti, and when I would drive my brothers protuned 08 sti, it would feel like a dog. I would be like wow this thing is slow!

Got rid of it, bought the brz, and now when I drive his car, i'm like holy crap

At least in the beginning before I started modding it

[RCL]

250whp in the FRS with a good wheel/tire/suspension/brake setup would make for a VERY fast car around a track which is what I'm going for. It's not so much peak power that's important as is area under the curve, usuable power a the RPM's you will need it.

BUT for most people that just drive their cars on the street who like to just do pulls from light to light or hwy pulls(which I don't condone) than 250whp will most likely leave you dissatisfied.

Just depends on what your goals are...

[jamesm]

250whp doesn't make for a very fast 86. i expected a lot more when my car was around that level. it starts to get fun as you push the boost up off of the wastegate and start making ~300whp. on e85 @ ~350whp it's a blast.

i was actually quite surprised that this car didn't respond the way my miatas always did. a basic FM2 miata (~220 dynojet whp) feels faster than my 86 does with 260 (mustang dyno) whp at around 8-8.5psi.

[DriftEm]

Originally Posted by jamesm

250whp doesn't make for a very fast 86. i expected a lot more when my car was around that level. it starts to get fun as you push the boost up off of the wastegate and start making ~300whp. on e85 @ ~350whp it's a blast.

i was actually quite surprised that this car didn't respond the way my miatas always did. a basic FM2 miata (~220 dynojet whp) feels faster than my 86 does with 260 (mustang dyno) whp at around 8-8.5psi.

"Feels" slower or "is" slower?

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[nataku]

I was fine around 250whp til I had an overboosting issue and experienced something closer to 350whp... Just shy of 300whp is a nice spot to be, but more important is peak torque and where you get it. I only make ~290whp but I make ~250ftlb of torque.

Horsepower seems to only be an important metric on the dyno. When you want to know how it will feel to drive the car you need to be looking at torque. I would say 250ftlb of torque is a good spot to reach.

[jamesm]

Originally Posted by DriftEm

"Feels" slower or "is" slower?

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is slower.

[kbye]

...probably because the miata is 500+lbs lighter?
different dyno, different car, potentially different drivetrain loss.

[xxscaxx]

Originally Posted by jamesm

is slower.

Isn't the Miata like 600 pounds less than our car? If so, i'm not really that surprised, and you shouldn't be either lol.

@kbye just beat me to it, haha

[jamesm]

Originally Posted by xxscaxx

Isn't the Miata like 600 pounds less than our car? If so, i'm not really that surprised, and you shouldn't be either lol.

@kbye just beat me to it, haha

more like 250lbs... but yeah. the na's were around 500lbs lighter. the point is a lot of people think 'it's light... it doesn't need much power' when in reality these cars aren't all that light, and don't respond the way other 'lightweight' cars do.