2017 brz US price update

[DAEMANO]

Originally Posted by velvetx

Lets hold off right now regarding the performance packaging being legit (not trying to derail the hype train I am getting a 2017 BRZ and pretty stoked on pricing). However few things we need to know before we invest in the performance package.

New Wheels: Are they lighter or is it just for looks?
Brembo Brakes: Is this the big brake fronts or the cheap brembos?
Sachs Dampeners: Is this even worth it over OEM?

Just saying for that price it seems like we are getting something at a great value but really what are we getting as the company needs to make money?

The tooling for the car is likely paid for or nearly paid for. Mid-cycle refreshes are where all the money is made. That probably plays into the low costs of the performance package as quoted. Sure the prices could go higher at the release date, but the auto press is also quoting the same costs sourced by Subaru.

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...aru-brz-review

Wheels, made to be stronger and have lower offsets to clear the new BBK. They're probably very close to the weight of the standard wheels give or take an inconsequential amount.

Pricing - See below
Brakes - See below
Dampers - same

Performance, Packaged

A new Performance package also is available for 2017 BRZs equipped with the Limited trim level and the manual transmission. An $1195 option, it includes Sachs dampers, Brembo four-piston front calipers with two-pot fixed clampers in back (replacing the standard sliding calipers), bigger 12.8-inch front and 12.4-inch rear brake rotors (up by 1.2 and 1.0 inches), and 0.5-inch-wider wheels (wearing the same tires) to accommodate the larger stoppers. The optional dampers further improved body control through the speedway’s fast corners, and the steering was predictable yet razor sharp. Entering the high-speed braking zone, it was immediately noticeable that the Brembos, with their better pedal feel and reduced fade, were superior to the standard binders. The car still rides on slide-happy Michelin Primacy HP tires, and the brakes quickly overwhelm the available grip, leading to early ABS activation. As before, a BRZ owner heading for the track will want to opt for more serious performance rubber....

[velvetx]

Originally Posted by DAEMANO

The tooling for the car is likely paid for or nearly paid for. Mid-cycle refreshes are where all the money is made. That probably plays into the low costs of the performance package as quoted. Sure the prices could go higher at the release date, but the auto press is also quoting the same costs sourced by Subaru.

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...aru-brz-review

Wheels, made to be stronger and have lower offsets to clear the new BBK. They're probably very close to the weight of the standard wheels give or take an inconsequential amount.

Pricing - See below
Brakes - See below
Dampers - same

So do you think we are getting these?

http://www.ft86speedfactory.com/brem...l#.V4kVrfkrKUk

[DAEMANO]

Originally Posted by velvetx

So do you think we are getting these?

http://www.ft86speedfactory.com/brem...l#.V4kVrfkrKUk

No. It'll likely be some version Brembo offers only to OEMS customized to Toyobaru's specs.

[gramicci101]

Originally Posted by velvetx

Brembo Brakes: Is this the big brake fronts or the cheap brembos?

What are the "cheap Brembos"?


The rotors are the same size as the STI rotors at 326f/316r, which is larger than our current rotors at 294f/290r. The piston sizes are different than the STI, which I assume is to manage brake bias. Will it be as effective as the $3500 Brembo front BBK? Probably not. Will it be better than our current OEM brakes? Very likely.

[velvetx]

Originally Posted by gramicci101

What are the "cheap Brembos"?


The rotors are the same size as the STI rotors at 326f/316r, which is larger than our current rotors at 294f/290r. The piston sizes are different than the STI, which I assume is to manage brake bias. Will it be as effective as the $3500 Brembo front BBK? Probably not. Will it be better than our current OEM brakes? Very likely.

I would say the "less expensive" brembos are the OEM ones. But you are right definitely better. Maybe the reason for this is because though Toyota has been mum on what they are doing from a manufacturing standpoint the FT86 has to have this same package offered to significantly reduce costs.

[goldenfri]

Well one of the main drawback of the brembos in the PP vs aftermarket is that they will probably have a full iron rotors, where as something aftermarket will have an aluminum hat and iron rotor discs. This cuts down on weight but also increases costs.

Also people comparing the PP brakes to the aftermarket, don't forget you are getting front and rear BBK with the PP with a correct front/rear bias. It's a killer deal, not to mention the wheels and dampers that come with it.

I actually prefer the new base wheels though, the PP wheels are a little strange where the spokes meet the barrel.

[Marat]

Anyone know if the specs on these brembo calipers is identical to the new STIs calipers (i.e. piston size, rotor diameter/thickness etc)

[RedFR-s]

Originally Posted by Sport-Tech

PP not till early 2017. Why do they delay the release of the good stuff? Seems to be SOP with car manufacturers a lot of the time. Fiat's doing the same with the new 124 - no Abarth version for the first several months.

That's to ease the burden on the manufacturing side. New process, equipment, traning, etc throwing in too many extra options is begging for more mistakes.

I've been through that a few times now.

[WorldRallyB]

Originally Posted by dragon1522000

2017 price as follows
Msrp
Premium 6spd 25495
Limited 6spd 27645
Limited. AT 28745
Yellow series 29695
Performance package 1,195 added to above pricing of premium and limited models yellow series already includes that added price

Thought I'd let the Forum know.. I called my dealership today, confirmed these prices! Placing a order for a 2017 WRB Limited 6spd for $27145 on Monday!

[Irace86]

Originally Posted by CBR600RR

1195 for brembo brakes and different wheels seems a little low.

It does but it isnt really a huge cost difference for Subaru over the stock brakes and rims. I think we are just used to aftermarket prices then trying to sell used or like-new parts online.

[Elleteeh]

Originally Posted by WorldRallyB

Thought I'd let the Forum know.. I called my dealership today, confirmed these prices! Placing a order for a 2017 WRB Limited 6spd for $27145 on Monday!

Just placed my order today for a white limited today at invoice. Going automatic this time, tired of manual lol. I wonder if this means I'm going to miss out on the PP or not since I thought I saw it was only offered on the manual.

[ayau]

Originally Posted by Elleteeh

Just placed my order today for a white limited today at invoice. Going automatic this time, tired of manual lol. I wonder if this means I'm going to miss out on the PP or not since I thought I saw it was only offered on the manual.

Do you mean MSRP? Invoice price is below MSRP.

[Elleteeh]

Originally Posted by ayau

Do you mean MSRP? Invoice price is below MSRP.

No, I'm getting it at invoice. Never paying MSRP. Not even for this refresh.

[WorldRallyB]

Originally Posted by Elleteeh

No, I'm getting it at invoice. Never paying MSRP. Not even for this refresh.

Have you done your share of reading on the '17s? There is very little incentive to get an auto..