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Old 08-01-2018, 01:44 AM   #15
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+1 for Elite Performance Give them a call or drop by the shop.
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Old 09-21-2018, 02:10 AM   #16
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I don't think you can underestimate the benefit of finding a good local tuner/mechanic to work with. Dropping the car off for half day here or a day or two there to sort those little niggling issues is gold. Stick to your plan A of finding a reliable local guy. Sure buy a kit or long block from a specialist, but find a local to help make it all happen.
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+1 for shipping it to Pure Automotive. They are the best shop for this particular swap. They won't run into anything they haven't seen before.
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Thanks for all the info guys. I actually got introduced to a very reputable and well known local builder and was able to really hear what it takes to build it out solidly as well as hear realistically what the 2J can do on only pump gas...if you want to be able to drive it hard. In the end, for $30-40k and limited to 450whp on 91 pump gas it's just not worth it for me, not even close enough to consider it actually. It would make a whole lot more sense to spend the money on an actual Supra, than do a 2J swap. Money is not really the issue, but the 2J just isn't going to make big power on pump gas here. I don't have E85 near by and race gas is way to inconvenient to run. A V8 would be way to obvious to authorities so I'm stuck with the FA20 for now. I'll just watch all you guys doing the swaps with envy!
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I haven't paid any shop to do a single thing on my car and i'm above $40k on my build. And I source parts really effectively lol. I have about 600 hours of labor into my car. That may be reduced at a shop but it's doubtful with all the work i've put in and i'm not done yet. Just FYI.

@86fun - If you want a cheap and fun 2jz car, the is300 is easy/cheap to swap and looks cool to boot.
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Thanks for all the info guys. I actually got introduced to a very reputable and well known local builder and was able to really hear what it takes to build it out solidly as well as hear realistically what the 2J can do on only pump gas...if you want to be able to drive it hard. In the end, for $30-40k and limited to 450whp on 91 pump gas it's just not worth it for me, not even close enough to consider it actually. It would make a whole lot more sense to spend the money on an actual Supra, than do a 2J swap. Money is not really the issue, but the 2J just isn't going to make big power on pump gas here. I don't have E85 near by and race gas is way to inconvenient to run. A V8 would be way to obvious to authorities so I'm stuck with the FA20 for now. I'll just watch all you guys doing the swaps with envy!
I sent my car to Pure for an LS swap. I'll let you know how it goes when it comes back end of January. Should be at least 500 whp on 91 and a little more on E85. Pure claims only 86 lbs heavier than stock I believe. I don't totally agree that a V8 attracts more attention. Sure if you put a wild cam in the car. I'm having them make the car as quiet as possible with a big suite case muffler as well as Laguna pipes so I don't have to lift there. To me a loud blow off valve attracts more attention than a NA V8 with a stock or mild cam and quiet exhaust. Plus turbo screams import and cops hate imports, most cops! Never got anything but a thumbs up in my ZL1. Actually had a cop follow me for a mile just to pull up next to me and tell me he liked the car! To me cops that can tell the difference between a Toyota and a Chevy motor are probably into cars and are more likely to respect a V8 swap, Merica!
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Why do you want to waste money on a v8 swapped 86 when you have a ZL1???
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Why do you want to waste money on a v8 swapped 86 when you have a ZL1???
A. Better power to weight ratio while staying NA.
B. Cost of consumables tires, pads and rotors, not to mention money saved on registration and insurance.
C. Just to be different
D. It will be a full on race car down the road
E. With a 1000 lbs less weight and a much shorter wheel base it should be more fun to drive

If your car needs boost then it is suffering from one of 3 problems.
1. Car is too heavy
2. Engine is too small
3. Both of the above

I like a bare bones analog driving experience and I don't think anything that's coming out in the future is really going to get me as excited...

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Thanks for all the info guys. I actually got introduced to a very reputable and well known local builder and was able to really hear what it takes to build it out solidly as well as hear realistically what the 2J can do on only pump gas...if you want to be able to drive it hard. In the end, for $30-40k and limited to 450whp on 91 pump gas it's just not worth it for me, not even close enough to consider it actually. It would make a whole lot more sense to spend the money on an actual Supra, than do a 2J swap. Money is not really the issue, but the 2J just isn't going to make big power on pump gas here. I don't have E85 near by and race gas is way to inconvenient to run. A V8 would be way to obvious to authorities so I'm stuck with the FA20 for now. I'll just watch all you guys doing the swaps with envy!

On average, with a manual transmission, we take pump gas cars on 93 up to about 18-19 psi which generally makes about 550-600 depending on the setup. For a setup like that with reasonably nice parts, stock head and block, you'd end up somewhere around $28-$30k all said and done. If you start adding stuff like cams, valve train, studs, etc you start looking at closer to $35k. But the real issue with getting the car to me is transport, its difficult to find an affordable, reliable guy to do it. I wish I knew a retired guy that would be willing to take my trailer and go drive across country to pick up cars. Buying Supra is extremely costly and most of them, even though they look good in pictures, need lots of work. And in the end, you're still limited to the same hp, only now you have a car that is much harder to replace and has much older bushings, parts, etc. Not knocking Supras, I have one and I love it, but every time I drive it I'm afraid someone is going to run a red light and destroy it. So whether it comes to us or goes somewhere else, my vote is not to give up on the project, they're so much fun when they're done.
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