Toyota and Subaru Officially Confirm Second Gen 86! (September 27, 2019)

[mazeroni]

Originally Posted by beltax90

Wait whats going on

We hit peak rumor mill.

Now tens of people are about to find out if they are right or wrong.

All of us are reflecting on the state of our lives and how quickly time has passed since 2013.

[Sasquachulator]

Does the hype train have torque dip?

Cuz that would be a huge oversight.....

[Sapphireho]

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[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by Sasquachulator

That would be the best thing for subaru.
The 2nd gen 86/BRZ.......another collaboration with Subaru, by rebadging the 4cyl Supra that was created in tandem with BMW.

Subaru would get credit for doing absolutely nothing!

And everyone who has ever owned a POS BMW won't touch it with a 10 foot pole.. not sure how great that would be for Subaru.

[DarkPira7e]

INTEGRATED INTERCOOLER SPRAYER AND ADAPTIVE CRUISE CONTROL

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by mazeroni

I will be looking for this "Hybrid Sienna" and "Hybrid Crossover." Although I wonder if the hybrid crossover is referring to the Rav 4 Prime, which according to Toyota launches summer 2020; it was announced after this slide showed up, so there is that. Nothing official on the Sienna, though there are camouflaged spy shots purporting to be the new Sienna, and the current Sienna is old, so that will likely officially release sometime soon, unless the virus has messed a lot of that stuff up.

Shrug. I'll defend the credibility of the slide now only because it is so vague that I won't gain or lose credibility (if I had any), and the timeline of releases seems to align with what we're seeing in the pipeline. The "Final Edition" twins furthers that. Not that this validates any other rumors.

Never have disputed the credibility of the picture. It is the right format and styling fora Toyota presentation. I have seen several of them and they are always very close.
I dispute the other "information" that has been tacked onto it. There is nothing to support any of the numbers being thrown out.
I dispute that it is still accurate in their timing and possibly even the minuscule info it offers. Things have changed a lot in the industry since that pic first showed up in December.

[nikitopo]

I don't think anyone knows currently what the new timeline will be.

[Hot-Lava_Dave]

Originally Posted by nikitopo

I don't think anyone knows currently what the new timeline will be.

Yeah, there is no telling how far development got pushed back with all the global hangups these days.

[JD001]

Originally Posted by Sapphireho

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Second thoughts, don't join hands...

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Never have disputed the credibility of the picture. It is the right format and styling fora Toyota presentation. I have seen several of them and they are always very close.

@Tcoat in your experience does "launch" mean "for sale" or does it mean "announcement of when it will be for sale"?

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

@Tcoat in your experience does "launch" mean "for sale" or does it mean "announcement of when it will be for sale"?

That is a great point that I never really thought about.
So, "launch" in our end of the business is usually 2 years before the actual vehicle is ever seen. We are currently a year into "launch" of a whole new vehicle that does not come out for another 18 months.
I can not speak for how Toyota/Subaru use the term but the Big Three all refer to "launch" as the process prior to the vehicle being available for sale. The term used for when they actually go on sale is "release".

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

That is a great point that I never really thought about.
So, "launch" in our end of the business is usually 2 years before the actual vehicle is ever seen. We are currently a year into "launch" of a whole new vehicle that does not come out for another 18 months.
I can not speak for how Toyota/Subaru use the term but the Big Three all refer to "launch" as the process prior to the vehicle being available for sale. The term used for when they actually go on sale is "release".

They tend to use Launch when they debut the car publically. On sale/release is when one could buy it.

Looking back on the Subaru doc, if Production does start in Spring then Summer 2021 release is actually possible. Not surprising that both companies seem to be using the approx same dates for obvious reasons.

Of course development issues can push it back.

[flyboy2160]

Originally Posted by mazeroni

Re-posting these spy shots out of curiosity.
This "test car" features...

And test versions of Corona Beer Kardashian virus masks. They knew something! (Ok, Ok, lame, but there's no racing news...)

[J1Avs]

Well folks...it happened...someone went and created anew GR86 forum pushing the RUMORS and SPECULATION we have all heard over the last year:


https://www.*********/


(GR86) (.org)




And it even got traction that freaking Motortrend cited them:
https://www.motortrend.com/news/toyo...-leak-details/


Seriously?!?! We still don't even know it will be called the GR86, and the one slide that everyone is throwing around a few months late, still refers to it as the 86....


I wish we could quarantine idiots from using the internet, like we are quarantining them in their homes....I guess this just lets them do more dumb things on the internet with their extra free time