Pockmarks on windows? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Dang Lad · 07-04-2012, 03:34 PM

I've been washing my FRS at least once every 5 days since I got it a month ago with using ONR 2 bucket method (splitting the car up into 16 panels, washing and drying each) and then going over the windows and windshield with Stoners and a clean, new Cobra microfiber. I just noticed today that there appear to be dozens of tiny pockmarks on every window surface of the car. You can barely feel them with your finger and you can see the sunlight reflects differently on them in the right conditions.

It looks like it might be something reacting to the tint or finish on the windows, but Stoners is supposed to be safe for all Auto glass. Anyone else ever seen this/have any thoughts?

7thgear · 07-04-2012, 03:38 PM

i have the same thing

you can only see it under the right light, have no idea what it is

pic for reference

Dang Lad · 07-04-2012, 03:43 PM

It's bittersweet to see another person have the same issue - I'm thinking it might be an issue with the glass itself since it's on every surface and I've been taking pretty good care of the car thus far. Has anyone else experienced this? I searched the forum and didn't find anything else, but maybe people just haven't noticed it yet.

7thgear · 07-04-2012, 03:52 PM

my detailer (Hamza7 on this board) said he had another FRS come for detailing and he saw the same thing.

Dang Lad · 07-04-2012, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 7thgear

my detailer (Hamza7 on this board) said he had another FRS come for detailing and he saw the same thing.

Jealous you got Hamza detailing your car

. You going with Opti-Coat?

dabocx · 07-04-2012, 05:01 PM

My dealer told me it was part of the UV protection on the glass. No idea if thats true or not.

Draco-REX · 07-04-2012, 05:27 PM

Do you mean that "woven" pattern? Most all auto glass these days has that. I see it a lot on Mercs and BMWs.

DYOLF26 · 07-04-2012, 05:32 PM

It's the UV protection of the glass. Now you won't get skin cancer driving your car! Ha. It's way more noticeable with polarized sunglasses.

Dang Lad · 07-04-2012, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Draco-REX

Do you mean that "woven" pattern? Most all auto glass these days has that. I see it a lot on Mercs and BMWs.

I'm referring to actual pockmarks - you can actually feel them in the glass, almost like road rash, but it's on every window surface. I'm familiar with the UV protection, but this is something separate that's physically a pockmark as opposed to the visual effect of the UV protection.

7thgear · 07-04-2012, 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dang Lad

I'm referring to actual pockmarks - you can actually feel them in the glass, almost like road rash, but it's on every window surface. I'm familiar with the UV protection, but this is something separate that's physically a pockmark as opposed to the visual effect of the UV protection.

i havent touched mine like you have.. maybe you have gentle hands

but i didn't feel anything.

Dang Lad · 07-04-2012, 05:52 PM

Here's an example (photo isn't great quality). All those little white marks you see are what I'm talking about. The light hits them differently and you can feel them in the glass.

More shots here

smbrm · 07-04-2012, 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dang Lad

Here's an example (photo isn't great quality). All those little white marks you see are what I'm talking about. The light hits them differently and you can feel them in the glass.
More shots here

Could be sand or grit chips. The surface of windshields is not that hard. Have you been driving in gritty area? I have seen this on other windshields.

Dang Lad · 07-04-2012, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smbrm

Could be sand or grit chips. The surface of windshields is not that hard. Have you been driving in gritty area? I have seen this on other windshields.

I would have thought the same thing, but it's on every single window surface, including side and rear so I don't think it could just be grit at high speeds. Thinking I'll take it into the dealer and have them take a look and make any suggestions.

Turbowned · 07-06-2012, 03:20 PM

Looks like really soft glass... I dunno, man

07-04-2012, 03:34 PM	#1
Dang Lad Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: Asphalt MT FR-S Location: Austin, TX Posts: 163 Thanks: 192 Thanked 40 Times in 25 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Pockmarks on windows? I've been washing my FRS at least once every 5 days since I got it a month ago with using ONR 2 bucket method (splitting the car up into 16 panels, washing and drying each) and then going over the windows and windshield with Stoners and a clean, new Cobra microfiber. I just noticed today that there appear to be dozens of tiny pockmarks on every window surface of the car. You can barely feel them with your finger and you can see the sunlight reflects differently on them in the right conditions. It looks like it might be something reacting to the tint or finish on the windows, but Stoners is supposed to be safe for all Auto glass. Anyone else ever seen this/have any thoughts?

07-04-2012, 03:38 PM	#2
7thgear i'm sorry, what? Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: Canada Location: I rock a beat harder than you can beat it with rocks Posts: 4,399 Thanks: 357 Thanked 2,506 Times in 1,268 Posts Mentioned: 40 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	i have the same thing you can only see it under the right light, have no idea what it is pic for reference Attached Images __________________ don't you think if I was wrong, I'd know it?

07-04-2012, 03:52 PM	#4
7thgear i'm sorry, what? Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: Canada Location: I rock a beat harder than you can beat it with rocks Posts: 4,399 Thanks: 357 Thanked 2,506 Times in 1,268 Posts Mentioned: 40 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	my detailer (Hamza7 on this board) said he had another FRS come for detailing and he saw the same thing. __________________ don't you think if I was wrong, I'd know it?

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07-04-2012, 03:43 PM	#3
Dang Lad Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: Asphalt MT FR-S Location: Austin, TX Posts: 163 Thanks: 192 Thanked 40 Times in 25 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	It's bittersweet to see another person have the same issue - I'm thinking it might be an issue with the glass itself since it's on every surface and I've been taking pretty good care of the car thus far. Has anyone else experienced this? I searched the forum and didn't find anything else, but maybe people just haven't noticed it yet.

07-04-2012, 05:01 PM	#6
dabocx Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: Scion FRS Location: United States Posts: 1,267 Thanks: 564 Thanked 261 Times in 191 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	My dealer told me it was part of the UV protection on the glass. No idea if thats true or not.

07-04-2012, 05:27 PM	#7
Draco-REX Corner Junkie Join Date: Feb 2012 Drives: 13 BRZ, 11 STI, 99 RS Location: Ohio Posts: 2,908 Thanks: 129 Thanked 1,520 Times in 702 Posts Mentioned: 11 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Do you mean that "woven" pattern? Most all auto glass these days has that. I see it a lot on Mercs and BMWs.

07-04-2012, 05:52 PM	#11
Dang Lad Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: Asphalt MT FR-S Location: Austin, TX Posts: 163 Thanks: 192 Thanked 40 Times in 25 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Here's an example (photo isn't great quality). All those little white marks you see are what I'm talking about. The light hits them differently and you can feel them in the glass. More shots here

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