Toyota 86 vs Scion FR-S: A Visual Comparison W/Poll - Page 3 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Cole · 03-28-2016, 01:55 PM

I'd love to have steering wheel buttons. My truck has them, and every now and then while I'm driving the FRS, I'll try and skip a song or turn up the volume with the non existant buttons on the wheel.

That's about the only thing I want that the 86 has.

theparagon · 03-28-2016, 02:05 PM

I see Toyota is still not capable of color coordinating the lights on the dash and center console. Subaru can make all the lights amber/red. Why can't you, Toyota.

Big D Design · 03-28-2016, 02:12 PM

I think the new bumper design probably looks a lot better with a license plate. I don't require one in my state of FL, but imagine what the bumper would look like with a plate there. It's going to break up the fish look.

8R6 · 03-28-2016, 02:16 PM

i want the new steering wheel. thats about it.

Chaetagnath · 03-28-2016, 03:10 PM

If the FR-S had never existed, I would absolutely love the new 86. But, by comparison, the original just looks better.

mazeroni · 03-28-2016, 04:11 PM

With the FR-S they were trying to pay homage to the 2000gt. Simple, clean, and elegant. They did that and now it is time to move on.

The FT-1 is on a lot of people's radar after its debut. People still talk about it and want to see it as a Supra successor. When your design studio does something right, you don't ignore it. Adapting a more FT-1-centric design makes sense. While using the current gen FR-S as an interim solution isn't great, the car was due for a refresh and switching brands in the US is a great way to introduce a different design direction.

I agree the 86 is busy and nobody will remember it as the good design, but you do too little and people accuse you of being lazy. Too much is too expensive. So they schlepped together a new design that gets people talking. The future of 86 from a design standpoint looks very good. Just not with this refresh. Until we get Gen 2, well, be happy it even exists because neither Toyota or Subaru really, truly need the car to survive.

NWFRS · 03-28-2016, 04:57 PM

I refuse to vote in this poll because I'm not a fan of EITHER front bumper treatment. The wheels, bumpers and fender garnishes are all a wash to me. I would buy whichever was cheaper and then do my own thing. As I'm sure the Toyota 86 will cost more than the outgoing FR-S, I'd choose the latter. But the pole isn't about cost, and "neither" isn't an option.

This is one of only a few bumper treatments that I'd have been willing to pay more for upfront, but Toyota never asked me. I feel like both Subaru and Toyota missed the mark on this. Possibly Subaru missed a little less but they still missed...

Th3rdSun · 03-28-2016, 06:15 PM

The only thing I like about the new 86 is the tail lights look a hell of a lot better to the point that I wouldn't even think about getting after market.The other notable feature is that it comes standard with a shark fin antenna.Have to say,I'm sick of looking at that Alfalfa sprout on top of mine.

Teseo · 03-28-2016, 06:22 PM

Team Zenki!

NWFRS · 03-28-2016, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by new2subaru

Where did this photo originate?

That front end and garnish are nice!

It's a photoshop by another member.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...?t=4265&page=4

CatScan · 03-28-2016, 07:52 PM

They had it right at the start, but somebody said "but mah aggressives".

Bykov · 03-28-2016, 08:14 PM

My only issue with it is: it incorporated what the deal breaker for the BRZ was for me.... a Mustache.

I see the very wide intake is faux on the sides and is still the same width. I don't see this as an issue. That can be cut out cleanly and turned into intakes possibly, fitment depending.

hmong337 · 03-28-2016, 09:43 PM

I'm so glad I have a 1st Gen!

Th3rdSun · 03-29-2016, 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CatScan

They had it right at the start, but somebody said "but mah aggressives".

Those wheels are a thousand times better,but those headlights look silly.

View Poll Results: If you had to pick just one base on looks, which one would it be?
Scion FR-S	252	80.77%
Toyota 86	60	19.23%
Voters: 312. You may not vote on this poll

03-28-2016, 02:12 PM	#31
Big D Design Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Drives: FRS RED - 12 Roush RS3 - 92 Maxima Location: North Florida Posts: 56 Thanks: 0 Thanked 57 Times in 24 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I think this..... I think the new bumper design probably looks a lot better with a license plate. I don't require one in my state of FL, but imagine what the bumper would look like with a plate there. It's going to break up the fish look.

03-28-2016, 02:16 PM	#32
8R6 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Drives: FRS Location: SoCal Posts: 2,086 Thanks: 2,738 Thanked 1,338 Times in 746 Posts Mentioned: 30 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	i want the new steering wheel. thats about it. __________________ Team BRG inspire-usa My car build #8R6

03-28-2016, 04:57 PM	#35
NWFRS Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Drives: ‘13 FRS Location: USA Posts: 1,296 Thanks: 3,945 Thanked 1,502 Times in 634 Posts Mentioned: 17 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	I refuse to vote in this poll because I'm not a fan of EITHER front bumper treatment. The wheels, bumpers and fender garnishes are all a wash to me. I would buy whichever was cheaper and then do my own thing. As I'm sure the Toyota 86 will cost more than the outgoing FR-S, I'd choose the latter. But the pole isn't about cost, and "neither" isn't an option. This is one of only a few bumper treatments that I'd have been willing to pay more for upfront, but Toyota never asked me. I feel like both Subaru and Toyota missed the mark on this. Possibly Subaru missed a little less but they still missed... __________________ http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=82872

03-28-2016, 09:43 PM	#41
hmong337 Emperor JDM Join Date: Jun 2013 Drives: '91 MR2 Gen3 3SGTE, '13 FRS Location: Onterrible, Canada Posts: 1,750 Thanks: 3,498 Thanked 909 Times in 495 Posts Mentioned: 20 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	I'm so glad I have a 1st Gen! __________________

03-28-2016, 01:55 PM	#29
Cole Not a troll Join Date: Apr 2015 Drives: FR-S Location: Canada Posts: 5,104 Thanks: 8,237 Thanked 5,399 Times in 2,694 Posts Mentioned: 266 Post(s) Tagged: 4 Thread(s)	I'd love to have steering wheel buttons. My truck has them, and every now and then while I'm driving the FRS, I'll try and skip a song or turn up the volume with the non existant buttons on the wheel. That's about the only thing I want that the 86 has.

03-28-2016, 02:05 PM	#30
theparagon Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S Location: DC Posts: 77 Thanks: 12 Thanked 66 Times in 33 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I see Toyota is still not capable of color coordinating the lights on the dash and center console. Subaru can make all the lights amber/red. Why can't you, Toyota.

03-28-2016, 04:11 PM	#34
mazeroni Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S Series 10 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 1,116 Thanks: 600 Thanked 1,017 Times in 512 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	With the FR-S they were trying to pay homage to the 2000gt. Simple, clean, and elegant. They did that and now it is time to move on. The FT-1 is on a lot of people's radar after its debut. People still talk about it and want to see it as a Supra successor. When your design studio does something right, you don't ignore it. Adapting a more FT-1-centric design makes sense. While using the current gen FR-S as an interim solution isn't great, the car was due for a refresh and switching brands in the US is a great way to introduce a different design direction. I agree the 86 is busy and nobody will remember it as the good design, but you do too little and people accuse you of being lazy. Too much is too expensive. So they schlepped together a new design that gets people talking. The future of 86 from a design standpoint looks very good. Just not with this refresh. Until we get Gen 2, well, be happy it even exists because neither Toyota or Subaru really, truly need the car to survive.

03-28-2016, 06:15 PM	#36
Th3rdSun Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Drives: 2013 FR-S MT Hot Lava Location: Chicagoland Area Posts: 558 Thanks: 142 Thanked 280 Times in 180 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	The only thing I like about the new 86 is the tail lights look a hell of a lot better to the point that I wouldn't even think about getting after market.The other notable feature is that it comes standard with a shark fin antenna.Have to say,I'm sick of looking at that Alfalfa sprout on top of mine.

03-28-2016, 06:22 PM	#37
Teseo Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Drives: frs Location: Gunsai Posts: 4,877 Thanks: 7,150 Thanked 2,922 Times in 1,769 Posts Mentioned: 23 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Team Zenki!

03-28-2016, 07:52 PM	#39
CatScan Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Drives: FR-S Location: Right there. Posts: 261 Thanks: 1 Thanked 187 Times in 107 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	They had it right at the start, but somebody said "but mah aggressives".

03-28-2016, 08:14 PM	#40
Bykov Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Drives: 2014 Monogram FR-S Whiteout Location: JBLM, Washington State Posts: 101 Thanks: 157 Thanked 69 Times in 48 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	My only issue with it is: it incorporated what the deal breaker for the BRZ was for me.... a Mustache. I see the very wide intake is faux on the sides and is still the same width. I don't see this as an issue. That can be cut out cleanly and turned into intakes possibly, fitment depending.

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