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Old 12-01-2016, 04:02 PM   #10235
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As a Procede owner, I don't see why he couldn't run one with a Procede, and the other with a throttle switch. Mount one before the MAF and one after it, then stage them to provide continuous boost all the way to redline. He could even mount the first one outside the radiator blowing into a FMIC, then past the MAF to the second one in the usual position. It's easy to mount batteries in the trunk, and run power up front using thick copper jumper cables. Mount batteries in the spare well and it keeps the center of gravity low, as well as allowing full use of the trunk.
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As a Procede owner, I don't see why he couldn't run one with a Procede, and the other with a throttle switch. Mount one before the MAF and one after it, then stage them to provide continuous boost all the way to redline. He could even mount the first one outside the radiator blowing into a FMIC, then past the MAF to the second one in the usual position. It's easy to mount batteries in the trunk, and run power up front using thick copper jumper cables. Mount batteries in the spare well and it keeps the center of gravity low, as well as allowing full use of the trunk.
As a non-procede owner, would it be possible to run both from a single Procede? Procede is definitely the route I want to go though.

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You'd have to ask Shiv that one. The Procede is made to do a lot more than throttle control, but only Shiv would know how.
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Parallel or sequential? how are you going to handle tuning?
Max speed of the motor seems to max out boost at ~5 psi, so parallel with two you might be able to push 5psi up to redline. I have no idea what would happen in a sequential setup.
Parallel - as in both feeding the throttle body at the same time on a Y-pipe of sorts.

Tuning - Well I have one of the best tuners at my disposal. He usually runs a hybrid speed density type tune on Ecutek of course I already have it anyways.

Hardest part is mounting the compressors. Need a custom bracket of some kind. The batteries I have figured out. The pluming probably wont be too difficult.
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Old 12-01-2016, 05:41 PM   #10239
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As a Procede owner, I don't see why he couldn't run one with a Procede, and the other with a throttle switch. Mount one before the MAF and one after it, then stage them to provide continuous boost all the way to redline. He could even mount the first one outside the radiator blowing into a FMIC, then past the MAF to the second one in the usual position. It's easy to mount batteries in the trunk, and run power up front using thick copper jumper cables. Mount batteries in the spare well and it keeps the center of gravity low, as well as allowing full use of the trunk.
Id probably keep it simple and run both on a throttle switch. One at 50% then the other wide open.

You bring up a good point I would probably need a IC of some kind wonder what that would do to the pressure drop....
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Parallel - as in both feeding the throttle body at the same time on a Y-pipe of sorts.

Tuning - Well I have one of the best tuners at my disposal. He usually runs a hybrid speed density type tune on Ecutek of course I already have it anyways.

Hardest part is mounting the compressors. Need a custom bracket of some kind. The batteries I have figured out. The pluming probably wont be too difficult.

I would use the fan mount to connect a bar to hold up the phantoms.




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I would use the fan mount to connect a bar to hold up the phantoms.

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Yeah if sequentially mounted that should work. Would make the piping alot simpler too just like the video shows.
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Two words for you to ponder. Heat Soak.

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Id probably keep it simple and run both on a throttle switch. One at 50% then the other wide open.

You bring up a good point I would probably need a IC of some kind wonder what that would do to the pressure drop....
Cold air makes a lot more power, and in Florida you probably don't get a lot of cold air. How about mounting both SC's in front of the radiator. You could have one pushing and one pulling air from an FMIC. Plus, a simple cone filter would be pulling in air that is already cooler. You also wouldn't be getting any heat soak in front of the radiator, and you could insulate the MAF and intake tube in the engine compartment. LiPo batteries could bring the weight down, and the power up at the same time.
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Cold air makes a lot more power, and in Florida you probably don't get a lot of cold air. How about mounting both SC's in front of the radiator. You could have one pushing and one pulling air from an FMIC. Plus, a simple cone filter would be pulling in air that is already cooler. You also wouldn't be getting any heat soak in front of the radiator, and you could insulate the MAF and intake tube in the engine compartment. LiPo batteries could bring the weight down, and the power up at the same time.

Problem with LiPo is the controller isn't made to charge them and you run the risk of then overcharging.

But everything else would be do able. A lot of work though.



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Old 12-04-2016, 04:32 AM   #10244
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'not my name here'
My name used to be on the list but as it turns out, I have waited two and a half years for nothing Rob
Sure is an interesting way to alienate your buyers
Why doesn't Rob just raise via kickstarter? Obvious market and demand. Did anyone else see that massive list? And that's just a small fraction from one small community
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Old 12-04-2016, 07:27 AM   #10245
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Rob is not a salesman. He's an engineer. I don't think he's trying to make a fortune on this project. He's just satisfying his intellectual curiosity.
And I think that is a list of Domestic customers. I hate to say it but I think you international guys are SOL.
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There is a large amount of people who are of the mindset of 'shut up and take my money', me being one of them. If people are willing to buy your product, then be willing to sell it. Otherwise why have the website and go to the extent of proving it to 'his own intellectual curiosity?'
Anywho, I'm just annoyed that I have been trying to give this man my money and he doesn't want to accept it. That and I always seem to miss out on 2nd hand kits, or the local postage to the seller is more convenient, which is understandable.
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Old 12-05-2016, 08:17 PM   #10247
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This has been brought up many times with same no results.
I almost think that it would be better for some shady firm to reuse this idea/work, make illegitimate copies .. and make 10-100 times more customers happy not being able to get product "in right way". Imho this "long" waiting list is only small fraction of potential customers. There should be loads more that are not willing to wait for year+, and once found out that it's not possible to get it within eg. month, simply moved on from this product made of unobtanium.
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There is a large amount of people who are of the mindset of 'shut up and take my money', me being one of them. If people are willing to buy your product, then be willing to sell it. Otherwise why have the website and go to the extent of proving it to 'his own intellectual curiosity?'
Anywho, I'm just annoyed that I have been trying to give this man my money and he doesn't want to accept it. That and I always seem to miss out on 2nd hand kits, or the local postage to the seller is more convenient, which is understandable.
This product seems more geared toward the people that are perfectly happy with the car being N/A, but wouldn't mind a taste of a little more power, with the smaller investment, simpler install, ease of reversal, etc. The people waiting for this kit doesn't care if their car is N/A or not, so waiting isn't a big deal. If you're wanting a forced induction kit that has loads of testing behind it that is cranking them out with a fairly short wait period (if at all) then the guys at CSG will send you a JRSC real quick.

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