Updated: Toyota GT86 - facts from Japan (Handmade and only 1000 units/yr - DEBUNKED) - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Leeky · 11-27-2011, 09:52 AM

PLEASE NOTE - THE INFORMATION IS INCORRECT AND WAS THE RESULT OF A MISUNDERSTANDING. WE'VE LEFT IT HERE SO THAT NEW READERS CAN STILL UNDERSTAND THE MIX UP AND FOLLOW IT.

Hello all!

Im here in Japan and i've just been to the Fuji Speedway where i met the Chief Engineer and also witnessed the unveiling of the Toyota GT86 - Official Name.

The car is confimed for a worldwide release in April 2012.

The car will be limited to 1000 units per year only.

Each car i can confirm will be hand made.

The automatic gearbox is based on the LF-A gearbox which means it will be a very good box. I spoke to people who have driven both the manual and the automatic and tell me that its hard to choose between the two. But that they are both very very good.

Toyota are not making any profit from the 86 and the sale price will make them break even.

Im happy to answer any questions about the car and will be posting up pictures and videos right now.

I will be going to the Tokyo Motor Show on Wednesday were they will have a number of production models in different colours and spec - hopefully even a TRD GT86. I will sit in the car and take many detailed pictures for you all.

Best Regards

Leeky

speed-wiz · 11-27-2011, 09:54 AM

Only 1000 units worldwide annually?

Navi · 11-27-2011, 09:54 AM

Can you confirm the source of these facts please?

1000 units a year worldwide only!? Thats not alot..

Dave-ROR · 11-27-2011, 09:56 AM

Navi: Toyota flew him to Japan for this so I'd guess that they are the source.

Still I find some of that hard to believe. Mainly the handmade and number of units. Toyota taking a loss or breaking even is easy to see based on r&d costs until a few model years in.

Completely handmade won't happen these days on a car like this. Engine hand built sure but moststuff will be done by robots.

Leeky · 11-27-2011, 09:56 AM

I can confirm that i got these figures directly from Toyota as i am here with them.

Today i was photographed with the cheif engineer AND the President of Toyota himself - Akio Toyoda.

Pictures will shortly follow.

jimmillion · 11-27-2011, 09:57 AM

Leaky our man in Japan, it's good to hear from you.

1000 handmade units is a big undated!!!!

Keep up the good work Leeky. Drink some sake for all of us!

Leeky · 11-27-2011, 10:00 AM

Here is am with the Chief Engineer. More to follow, but thought i would get this picture up quick.

I also have video of the car to upload.

In4FRS · 11-27-2011, 10:00 AM

Any word on a us price?

Lasse · 11-27-2011, 10:01 AM

Handmade and only 1000 units? No way man! I dont believe, actually i dont want to believe.

Handmade is never affordable, even if the price is break even with the costs.

tripjammer · 11-27-2011, 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leeky

Hello all!

Im here in Japan and i've just been to the Fuji Speedway where i met the Chief Engineer and also witnessed the unveiling of the Toyota GT86 - Official Name.

The car is confimed for a worldwide release in April 2012.

The car will be limited to 1000 units per year only.

Each car i can confirm will be hand made.

The automatic gearbox is based on the LF-A gearbox which means it will be a very good box.

Toyota are not making any profit from the 86 and the sale price will make them break even.

Im happy to answer any questions about the car and will be posting up pictures and videos right now.

I will be going to the Tokyo Motor Show on Wednesday were they will have the production model. I will sit in the car and take many detailed pictures for you all.

Best Regards

Leeky

I don't believe it...but could be true...1000 a year for the 86....1000 a year for the FRS.....1000 a year for the BRZ....equals 3000 a year.

But what kills your story is that you said hand made...and LFA based automatic. The LFA has a single clutch gearbox not a real automatic like in the isf. The gearbox is based on the one in the isf not the LFA.

BobbyBalaz · 11-27-2011, 10:02 AM

Each car is hand made? ... im just clicking refresh to find out more on this page.

Leeky · 11-27-2011, 10:06 AM

As i said, i am here as a guest of Toyota Japan with the head of advertising. These are the details that they have given me through all the questions i have been throwing at them. Hand made did indeed throw me for a second, so i asked again "Hand made!?"...."Yes, each one"

They did not elaborate on this. I would assume the chassis/body is done via robots and the rest of the car is put together by hand. Otherwise i cant see how it'll cost as little as they say it will.

They have also confirmed NO TURBO - EVER.

I even asked whether TRD will do a Turbo or Supercharger kit and the word is NO.

You can see the pictures as im uploading them here - http://s1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff515/LeekyInJapan

VenomRush · 11-27-2011, 10:06 AM

im about to cry

edit: just had a thought, toyota might only do 1k per year.. but subie might make tons and tons of them

Navi · 11-27-2011, 10:07 AM

LIES!

please lies?

11-27-2011, 09:52 AM	#1
Leeky 3S-GTE Junky Join Date: May 2011 Drives: Toyota Celica GT-Four ST205 Location: England UK Posts: 165 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Updated: Toyota GT86 - facts from Japan (Handmade and only 1000 units/yr - DEBUNKED) PLEASE NOTE - THE INFORMATION IS INCORRECT AND WAS THE RESULT OF A MISUNDERSTANDING. WE'VE LEFT IT HERE SO THAT NEW READERS CAN STILL UNDERSTAND THE MIX UP AND FOLLOW IT. Hello all! Im here in Japan and i've just been to the Fuji Speedway where i met the Chief Engineer and also witnessed the unveiling of the Toyota GT86 - Official Name. The car is confimed for a worldwide release in April 2012. The car will be limited to 1000 units per year only. Each car i can confirm will be hand made. The automatic gearbox is based on the LF-A gearbox which means it will be a very good box. I spoke to people who have driven both the manual and the automatic and tell me that its hard to choose between the two. But that they are both very very good. Toyota are not making any profit from the 86 and the sale price will make them break even. Im happy to answer any questions about the car and will be posting up pictures and videos right now. I will be going to the Tokyo Motor Show on Wednesday were they will have a number of production models in different colours and spec - hopefully even a TRD GT86. I will sit in the car and take many detailed pictures for you all. Best Regards Leeky Last edited by Leeky; 12-02-2011 at 05:12 AM.

11-27-2011, 09:54 AM	#2
speed-wiz Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Drives: MR2 Location: Atlanta Posts: 143 Thanks: 11 Thanked 12 Times in 10 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Only 1000 units worldwide annually? __________________ Speed-Wiz

11-27-2011, 09:54 AM	#3
Navi Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: Peugeot RCZ EP7 4E-FTE Ford ST150 Location: NL Posts: 92 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Can you confirm the source of these facts please? 1000 units a year worldwide only!? Thats not alot.. __________________ 1987 Corolla AE82 4AGTE - Sold 1988 Starlet EP71 4EFTE - Current 2008 Ford Fiesta ST150 - Current 2010 Peugeot RCZ - Current Visit: http://www.4agte.nl

11-27-2011, 09:56 AM	#4
Dave-ROR Site Moderator Join Date: Dec 2010 Drives: Stuff Location: Florida Posts: 10,317 Thanks: 955 Thanked 5,965 Times in 2,689 Posts Mentioned: 262 Post(s) Tagged: 8 Thread(s)	Navi: Toyota flew him to Japan for this so I'd guess that they are the source. Still I find some of that hard to believe. Mainly the handmade and number of units. Toyota taking a loss or breaking even is easy to see based on r&d costs until a few model years in. Completely handmade won't happen these days on a car like this. Engine hand built sure but moststuff will be done by robots. __________________ -Dave Track cars: 2013 Scion FRS, 1998 Acura Integra Type-R, 1993 Honda Civic Hatchback DD: 2005 Acura TSX Tow: 2022 F-450 Toys: 2001 Chevrolet Corvette Z06, 1993 Toyota MR2 Turbo, 1994 Toyota MR2 Turbo, 1991 Mitsubishi Galant VR-4 Parts: 2015 Subaru BRZ Limited, 2005 Acura TSX Projects: 2013 Subaru BRZ Limited track car build FS: 2004 GMC Sierra 2500 LT CCSB 8.1/Allison with 99k miles

11-27-2011, 10:06 AM	#12
Leeky 3S-GTE Junky Join Date: May 2011 Drives: Toyota Celica GT-Four ST205 Location: England UK Posts: 165 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	As i said, i am here as a guest of Toyota Japan with the head of advertising. These are the details that they have given me through all the questions i have been throwing at them. Hand made did indeed throw me for a second, so i asked again "Hand made!?"...."Yes, each one" They did not elaborate on this. I would assume the chassis/body is done via robots and the rest of the car is put together by hand. Otherwise i cant see how it'll cost as little as they say it will. They have also confirmed NO TURBO - EVER. I even asked whether TRD will do a Turbo or Supercharger kit and the word is NO. You can see the pictures as im uploading them here - http://s1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff515/LeekyInJapan Last edited by Leeky; 11-27-2011 at 10:26 AM.

11-27-2011, 09:57 AM	#6
jimmillion Power Ranger Elite Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: '13 WRB Sport-tech Location: Mississauga, Sq1 Posts: 726 Thanks: 482 Thanked 310 Times in 180 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Leaky our man in Japan, it's good to hear from you. 1000 handmade units is a big undated!!!! Keep up the good work Leeky. Drink some sake for all of us!

11-27-2011, 10:00 AM	#7
Leeky 3S-GTE Junky Join Date: May 2011 Drives: Toyota Celica GT-Four ST205 Location: England UK Posts: 165 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Here is am with the Chief Engineer. More to follow, but thought i would get this picture up quick. I also have video of the car to upload.

11-27-2011, 10:00 AM	#8
In4FRS Fr-s freak Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: 2014 Whiteout Scion FR-S Location: Florida Posts: 44 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Any word on a us price?

11-27-2011, 10:01 AM	#9
Lasse Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: Avensis 2.2 diesel Location: Finland Posts: 182 Thanks: 54 Thanked 16 Times in 13 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Handmade and only 1000 units? No way man! I dont believe, actually i dont want to believe. Handmade is never affordable, even if the price is break even with the costs.

11-27-2011, 10:02 AM	#11
BobbyBalaz Humble Newbie Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: Golf GTI MK6 (DSG) Location: Earth Posts: 30 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Each car is hand made? ... im just clicking refresh to find out more on this page.

11-27-2011, 10:06 AM	#13
VenomRush Thee O-ri-gi-na-tor Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: 2013 FR-S Location: So Cal Posts: 948 Thanks: 59 Thanked 80 Times in 46 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	im about to cry edit: just had a thought, toyota might only do 1k per year.. but subie might make tons and tons of them

11-27-2011, 10:07 AM	#14
Navi Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: Peugeot RCZ EP7 4E-FTE Ford ST150 Location: NL Posts: 92 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	LIES! please lies? __________________ 1987 Corolla AE82 4AGTE - Sold 1988 Starlet EP71 4EFTE - Current 2008 Ford Fiesta ST150 - Current 2010 Peugeot RCZ - Current Visit: http://www.4agte.nl

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