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Old 12-25-2017, 08:59 PM   #15
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Why even have a torque dip when you can easily get rid of it?
Because fuel efficiency?
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Old 12-25-2017, 08:59 PM   #16
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The torque dip is not overblown. Once I heard about the dip and took the engine beyond 5000 rpm I could no unfeel the torque dip. With a full exhaust and tune torque dip is gone. Car no longer starts wheezing at 3000 rpm and torque delivery is much smoother

imo OP's mods are reasonable and well researched. The ts version from what I've gathered makes improvements to how the car handles and OP is trying to fix or optimize power delivery and the sound the car makes. The best thing you can say about the stock sound is that it is boring. The only thing I'd worry about is if the exhaust hangers for the catback don't fit the 2017+ model year cars.

Also I'd skip the cold air intake unless you want that good S U C C
but the car was designed to be enjoyed above 5k rpm

its nots bloody v8 lol
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this is my first proper Subaru, I want to hear that boxer rumble.
I hate to break it to you dude, it's a Toyota through and through.
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Old 12-25-2017, 09:36 PM   #18
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Because fuel efficiency?
My gas mileage went up by about 2-2.5 mpg after cs400/ecutek.
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Old 12-25-2017, 09:41 PM   #19
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My gas mileage went up by about 2-2.5 mpg after cs400/ecutek.
So it got more fuel efficient? Sounds like you bought the wrong car entirely. What's the point of having a fun car that you're not driving like a fun car?
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Old 12-25-2017, 09:46 PM   #20
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I don't understand. I added more hp to make a fun car more fun, and it also happens to get better mpg when I'm cruising.
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Old 12-25-2017, 09:51 PM   #21
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I hate to break it to you dude, it's a Toyota through and through.
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So it got more fuel efficient? Sounds like you bought the wrong car entirely. What's the point of having a fun car that you're not driving like a fun car?
You seem especially bitchy today. Did someone leave you a pile of coal under the tree this morning?
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I hate to break it to you dude, it's a Toyota through and through.
But it has the beating heart of a Subaru

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So it got more fuel efficient? Sounds like you bought the wrong car entirely. What's the point of having a fun car that you're not driving like a fun car?
Its almost as if fun is relative and subjective as opposed to concrete objective truth
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Op imho I like where your going with your set up. My suggestions don’t get the intake instead just replace the intake tube and put a drop in high flow air filter. You will see better gains, lose the noise maker and clean up the engine bay while saving $$. Second nameless headers are good ACE headers might be better and alpha sunk2 are good as well. Keep the high flow cat. I would look in to FUJITSUBO AUTHORIZE R CATBACK (POLISHED TIP) - 2013+ FR-S / BRZ / 86 for the exhaust. Stay with the oft tune is awesome. My biggest recommendation is first break in your car properly follow all your breakin from the book!! Then after about 4-7k start with the mods slowly with the intake. Don’t touch anything else till after 7000 miles. I would recommend changing the oil after 3000 miles. Then again at the first scheduled change. A magnetic oil plug is always a good idea. I don’t know your climate but if you can I would suggest going to 0w30 or 5w30 for longevity and better pressure possibly an oil cooler down the road if your going to track it or drive it hard. Keep us posted.
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Old 12-26-2017, 04:58 AM   #25
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Torque dip really is over blown & isn't as bad as you think unless all you do is lots pulls between traffic light. It's not like you gonna win with the dip removed anyway. lol... Oh & it doesn't really matter what they tell you, they can fix most of the dip, but it will still be kind there. You can feel it even with tune, it's just not in your face anymore.

*Get a tune all you want with E85 thou, car does needs it especially if you don't drive the car that much. But know that torque dip is just gonna be not as prominent after the tune.

Stock tune is just really good for fuel efficient.... i drove from vegas to seattle in 4 tanks of gas & all I did was set the cruise control on 86miles most of the way. lol



I would say just leave the stock intake, but get a different intake duct for intake sound.

If you have to have rumble, HKS UEL is really good & is "designed for sound" .......other then that any long tube uels is gonna sound amazing along with fujitsubo authrize R keeping everything civilized.

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Old 12-26-2017, 05:17 AM   #26
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The torque dip is definitely a main issue with this car, but seriously... buy a decent catback, save the money until you go FI. NA gains with this car are pathetic so just gear everything you do with forced induction in mind.
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Old 12-26-2017, 06:30 AM   #27
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Personally, I wouldn't modify a tS car. If I wanted to make changes, then I would buy a base car or one with the power package.
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Torque dip really is over blown & isn't as bad as you think unless all you do is lots pulls between traffic light.
It's completely subjective. If it bothers someone there's no need to live with it just because someone else thinks they should ignore it's there.
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