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CBR600RR · 05-09-2013, 03:53 PM

Relax, I fucking got stickers, lots of'em

TylerLieberman · 05-09-2013, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CBR600RR

Relax, I fucking got stickers, lots of'em

I have 250hp now too.

True story

TylerLieberman · 05-20-2013, 08:29 PM

Small teaser from the weekend

Had a blast! Once the rest of the pictures get sent to me, I'll post everything up

TRD_07 · 05-20-2013, 09:07 PM

The car looks great man! I really wanted to go check out the event but unfortunitely I wasn't able to make it. I look forward to your pictures. Thanks.

TylerLieberman · 05-22-2013, 01:02 PM

So this past weekend there was an event in Mineral Wells. Had a lot of fun and learned a good amount about the car. I was also able to figure out what steps should be taken next in improving the car.

Threw the stock tires on the back to tear apart. The Michelin's are obviously not very good. The surface was a bit more harsh than I remember as well. After 5 runs, the tires already started chunking up a bit. The tires themselves are obviously not very grippy. Couple that with nearly -2 degrees of rear camber and the car's rear end doesn't feel very planted. It floats around a bit. So, before the next event, I'm going to roll out the rear fenders and pull out some of the camber so I have more contact and with better tires, more rear end grip. I'll end up going to somewhere between -1 and -0.5 degrees. Doing this will help in making the car feel more stable, more planted, and be a bit faster when the throttle is opened all the way.

Another thing to take into account is the steering angle-or lack of. It really doesn't have that much (compared to other car's I've drifted). Obviously, seeing how the steering components are stock, I can't expect crazy steering angle but some extra would be nice. Tie rods, rack spacers, and modified steering knuckles will help for sure. The front end felt great. I ran just under -4 degrees of camber and a tad bit of toe out. Turn-in and response was awesome. Just needs a little more steering angle in my opinion.

Next up is the big one: POWER. I came to the event with the assumption that the car was gonna get a beating just to keep the wheels spinning. I was definitely wrong! The car can be feathered on and off throttle through 2nd gear with ease. 3rd gear is where it get's interesting. My entry speeds were between 60-80mph and was running 3rd gear through the first corner. The problem is that the rpms were between 4-5k with the throttle hammered-which is where the torque dip is. I thought the car could easily use another 100hp from some type of forced induction, and sure, it could. It would be fun. But honestly, after driving it, I feel like an extra 30 or so hp and utilizing a new header and ecu setup to get that mid range torque back is what the car really needs. It would make the car 10x better and make it feel a lot more powerful.

There are a couple of small things I would like to change too eventually like thicker sway bars, a clutch type LSD over the torsen diff. The torsen diff works but the car would respond so much better with a proper 2 way diff. That's way down the road though. Other than that, I different bucket seat and deep dish steering wheel to make the driving position perfect for my liking.
The only real downside to the day was the passenger tire exploding and tearing a small hole in my cv boot. So, first thing to do is get that taken care of. Not a big deal, but it just goes to show and prove that if you wanna drift your new FR-S/BRZ (or any car). Be prepared for something to break or get damaged cause it WILL happen. Luckily, it isn't a big deal and is an easy fix.

To sum it all up, the car feels great. Great balance and great response. An alignment change, a bit more power and mid range torque will make the car even better. Can't wait to get back out there.

To do list:
CV Boot fix
Roll Fenders
Alignment
More Tires
Drive
More Tires
Drive

Down the road:
Header back exhaust
Drop In Filter
ECU Tune
Lightweight crank pulley
Bucket Seat
Steering Wheel
Sway Bars
2 Way Diff

Touge Factory · 05-23-2013, 02:00 PM

Ditch the Torsen!

We put Tomei 2-way in ours, and went out for some fun at D-Day!

TylerLieberman · 05-23-2013, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Touge Factory

Ditch the Torsen!

We put Tomei 2-way in ours, and went out for some fun at D-Day!

That was the diff I was looking at. Hooke me up!

Been buying stuff from you guys for years anyways lol

TylerLieberman · 05-23-2013, 03:44 PM

Pics from the photoshoot the other weekend

Stattic.net feature/photoshoot

TylerLieberman · 05-24-2013, 05:33 PM

So axle cv boot is being fixed this week.

Working on getting a time to get my rear fenders rolled so I have the clearance to pull out the camber in the rear.

To do/to buy list:
Cv Boot Replacement
SPC LCAs
Roll Rear Fenders
Alignment
Red Out Tails
Toyota/GT86 badges
Tint
More Tires

All of this to get done by the event on August 11th. There is an event this Sunday and another one on July 28th but I don't wanna cut it that close with my finances so I'm just holding off for the one after. The car will be so much better once it gets the new alignment.

After that event, sway bars, strut bars, chassis bracing and then it's on to the motor.

Marrk · 05-24-2013, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TylerLieberman

So axle cv boot is being fixed this week.

Working on getting a time to get my rear fenders rolled so I have the clearance to pull out the camber in the rear.

To do/to buy list:
Cv Boot Replacement
SPC LCAs
Roll Rear Fenders
Alignment
Red Out Tails
Toyota/GT86 badges
Tint
More Tires

All of this to get done by the event on August 11th. There is an event this Sunday and another one on July 28th but I don't wanna cut it that close with my finances so I'm just holding off for the one after. The car will be so much better once it gets the new alignment.

After that event, sway bars, strut bars, chassis bracing and then it's on to the motor.

Are you replacing just the boot (the rubber part) or the joint itself? Did the boot tear?

TylerLieberman · 05-24-2013, 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marrk

Are you replacing just the boot (the rubber part) or the joint itself? Did the boot tear?

The boot tore when the tire popped. The car drove literally 15 feet then we jacked it up, cleaned it all up and got a universal cover boot from autozone put on it.

Does anybody know how much I can adjust rear camber with the stock arms and bolts? I'm just trying to get a bit less cause I'm about -2 right now.

Drftfan · 05-26-2013, 06:09 PM

I am following this thread. Seems like exactly what I am trying to do with my frs as well.

TylerLieberman · 05-27-2013, 11:49 AM

Getting some work done today

TylerLieberman · 05-27-2013, 01:42 PM

Saw somebody on here with a Raven FR-S who dipped their stock wheels white. Decided to do the same to mine since they're just my drift spares and I think the white looks so much better than the silver/black that they come in.

Also did my tail lights red

JDM Toyota and GT86 badges, window visors, Personal steering wheel and hub next. Then stack up on some more tires.

Can't wait for the next event in August

05-20-2013, 08:29 PM	#17
TylerLieberman Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: '24 GR86 Location: Arizona Posts: 3,675 Thanks: 655 Thanked 3,342 Times in 1,576 Posts Mentioned: 16 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Small teaser from the weekend Had a blast! Once the rest of the pictures get sent to me, I'll post everything up __________________ Old 2013 FRS Build Thread (SOLD) Hakone 86 GR Build Thread (SOLD)

05-22-2013, 01:02 PM	#19
TylerLieberman Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: '24 GR86 Location: Arizona Posts: 3,675 Thanks: 655 Thanked 3,342 Times in 1,576 Posts Mentioned: 16 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	So this past weekend there was an event in Mineral Wells. Had a lot of fun and learned a good amount about the car. I was also able to figure out what steps should be taken next in improving the car. Threw the stock tires on the back to tear apart. The Michelin's are obviously not very good. The surface was a bit more harsh than I remember as well. After 5 runs, the tires already started chunking up a bit. The tires themselves are obviously not very grippy. Couple that with nearly -2 degrees of rear camber and the car's rear end doesn't feel very planted. It floats around a bit. So, before the next event, I'm going to roll out the rear fenders and pull out some of the camber so I have more contact and with better tires, more rear end grip. I'll end up going to somewhere between -1 and -0.5 degrees. Doing this will help in making the car feel more stable, more planted, and be a bit faster when the throttle is opened all the way. Another thing to take into account is the steering angle-or lack of. It really doesn't have that much (compared to other car's I've drifted). Obviously, seeing how the steering components are stock, I can't expect crazy steering angle but some extra would be nice. Tie rods, rack spacers, and modified steering knuckles will help for sure. The front end felt great. I ran just under -4 degrees of camber and a tad bit of toe out. Turn-in and response was awesome. Just needs a little more steering angle in my opinion. Next up is the big one: POWER. I came to the event with the assumption that the car was gonna get a beating just to keep the wheels spinning. I was definitely wrong! The car can be feathered on and off throttle through 2nd gear with ease. 3rd gear is where it get's interesting. My entry speeds were between 60-80mph and was running 3rd gear through the first corner. The problem is that the rpms were between 4-5k with the throttle hammered-which is where the torque dip is. I thought the car could easily use another 100hp from some type of forced induction, and sure, it could. It would be fun. But honestly, after driving it, I feel like an extra 30 or so hp and utilizing a new header and ecu setup to get that mid range torque back is what the car really needs. It would make the car 10x better and make it feel a lot more powerful. There are a couple of small things I would like to change too eventually like thicker sway bars, a clutch type LSD over the torsen diff. The torsen diff works but the car would respond so much better with a proper 2 way diff. That's way down the road though. Other than that, I different bucket seat and deep dish steering wheel to make the driving position perfect for my liking. The only real downside to the day was the passenger tire exploding and tearing a small hole in my cv boot. So, first thing to do is get that taken care of. Not a big deal, but it just goes to show and prove that if you wanna drift your new FR-S/BRZ (or any car). Be prepared for something to break or get damaged cause it WILL happen. Luckily, it isn't a big deal and is an easy fix. To sum it all up, the car feels great. Great balance and great response. An alignment change, a bit more power and mid range torque will make the car even better. Can't wait to get back out there. To do list: CV Boot fix Roll Fenders Alignment More Tires Drive More Tires Drive Down the road: Header back exhaust Drop In Filter ECU Tune Lightweight crank pulley Bucket Seat Steering Wheel Sway Bars 2 Way Diff __________________ Old 2013 FRS Build Thread (SOLD) Hakone 86 GR Build Thread (SOLD)

05-23-2013, 03:44 PM	#22
TylerLieberman Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: '24 GR86 Location: Arizona Posts: 3,675 Thanks: 655 Thanked 3,342 Times in 1,576 Posts Mentioned: 16 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Pics from the photoshoot the other weekend Stattic.net feature/photoshoot __________________ Old 2013 FRS Build Thread (SOLD) Hakone 86 GR Build Thread (SOLD)

05-24-2013, 05:33 PM	#23
TylerLieberman Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: '24 GR86 Location: Arizona Posts: 3,675 Thanks: 655 Thanked 3,342 Times in 1,576 Posts Mentioned: 16 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	So axle cv boot is being fixed this week. Working on getting a time to get my rear fenders rolled so I have the clearance to pull out the camber in the rear. To do/to buy list: Cv Boot Replacement SPC LCAs Roll Rear Fenders Alignment Red Out Tails Toyota/GT86 badges Tint More Tires All of this to get done by the event on August 11th. There is an event this Sunday and another one on July 28th but I don't wanna cut it that close with my finances so I'm just holding off for the one after. The car will be so much better once it gets the new alignment. After that event, sway bars, strut bars, chassis bracing and then it's on to the motor. __________________ Old 2013 FRS Build Thread (SOLD) Hakone 86 GR Build Thread (SOLD)

05-27-2013, 11:49 AM	#27
TylerLieberman Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: '24 GR86 Location: Arizona Posts: 3,675 Thanks: 655 Thanked 3,342 Times in 1,576 Posts Mentioned: 16 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Getting some work done today __________________ Old 2013 FRS Build Thread (SOLD) Hakone 86 GR Build Thread (SOLD)

05-09-2013, 03:53 PM	#15
CBR600RR Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: Raven Black Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 1,343 Thanks: 451 Thanked 563 Times in 276 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Relax, I fucking got stickers, lots of'em

05-20-2013, 09:07 PM	#18
TRD_07 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: Firestorm 6MT Location: Texas Posts: 456 Thanks: 435 Thanked 115 Times in 94 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The car looks great man! I really wanted to go check out the event but unfortunitely I wasn't able to make it. I look forward to your pictures. Thanks.

05-23-2013, 02:00 PM	#20
Touge Factory Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: ZN6 Location: Instagram: @TFWorks Posts: 905 Thanks: 197 Thanked 511 Times in 287 Posts Mentioned: 50 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Ditch the Torsen! We put Tomei 2-way in ours, and went out for some fun at D-Day!

05-26-2013, 06:09 PM	#26
Drftfan Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Drives: Argento FR-S Location: Denver Posts: 226 Thanks: 12 Thanked 73 Times in 46 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I am following this thread. Seems like exactly what I am trying to do with my frs as well.

05-27-2013, 01:42 PM	#28
TylerLieberman Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: '24 GR86 Location: Arizona Posts: 3,675 Thanks: 655 Thanked 3,342 Times in 1,576 Posts Mentioned: 16 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Saw somebody on here with a Raven FR-S who dipped their stock wheels white. Decided to do the same to mine since they're just my drift spares and I think the white looks so much better than the silver/black that they come in. Also did my tail lights red JDM Toyota and GT86 badges, window visors, Personal steering wheel and hub next. Then stack up on some more tires. Can't wait for the next event in August __________________ Old 2013 FRS Build Thread (SOLD) Hakone 86 GR Build Thread (SOLD)

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