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Old 11-13-2019, 03:26 PM   #1
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I like the looks but it really needs to be RWD.

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Old 11-13-2019, 04:32 PM   #2
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Soon everything will be AWD and hybrid/electric. Rear wheel drive is on the wrong side of history.
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Old 11-13-2019, 11:00 PM   #5
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Soon everything will be AWD and hybrid/electric. Rear wheel drive is on the wrong side of history.
True, but if we compare it to other cars in its class then FWD is less common. We have the following in RWD: Infiniti Q60, the Lexus IS/GS/RC, the BMW 3/4 series, the Audi 4/5 series, Cadillac CT5/6, etc. and this is just a sample from a few manufactures. I'm having a hard time thinking of a FWD luxury vehicle, except some compacts like the BMW X1 and Audi A3/Q3.
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True, but if we compare it to other cars in its class then FWD is less common. We have the following in RWD: Infiniti Q60, the Lexus IS/GS/RC, the BMW 3/4 series, the Audi 4/5 series, Cadillac CT5/6, etc. and this is just a sample from a few manufactures. I'm having a hard time thinking of a FWD luxury vehicle, except some compacts like the BMW X1 and Audi A3/Q3.
Arent all Audi's FWD based with quattro AWD systems?
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True, but if we compare it to other cars in its class then FWD is less common. We have the following in RWD: Infiniti Q60, the Lexus IS/GS/RC, the BMW 3/4 series, the Audi 4/5 series, Cadillac CT5/6, etc. and this is just a sample from a few manufactures. I'm having a hard time thinking of a FWD luxury vehicle, except some compacts like the BMW X1 and Audi A3/Q3.
How many of those cars listed have a manual transmission option? I'd rather have a manual FWD sedan than a RWD one with 2 pedals.
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. I'm having a hard time thinking of a FWD luxury vehicle, except some compacts like the BMW X1 and Audi A3/Q3.
There was a day when FWD in North American cars was restricted to the luxury vehicles. They marketed it as cutting edge innovation even though Europe had been doing it for decades. Wasn't really until the 80s when all the econoboxes went FWD that it got the bad name it has with "enthusiasts" today.


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Arent all Audi's FWD based with quattro AWD systems?
I would say that they are neither FWD or RWD. Basically, they use the same arrangement as Subaru. So when you look at the car, it has the proportions and engine placement of a FWD car, but there are no FWD models. Likewise, there are no RWD models (ignoring the BRZ.)

The exception to this may be the A4 that you can get with FWD. But the A4 is switching to the MQB platform in '21, so maybe all A4s will use a transverse layout.

Based on Wiki, Audi models that are the A4 and above ride on platforms that can can use either a traverse arrangement with the engine and transmission in front of the axle for FWD; or they can use a longitudinal arrangement with a differential behind the transmission to feed the front wheels.

However, I'm not sure that any of these Audi models (in the US) currently use a transverse layout. All the pictures I find of the 2.0 in both the A4 and A6 show a longitudinal layout. I don't know if these are "quattro" cars or FWD cars. I'd assume that a FWD A4 would use a transverse layout, but I could be wrong.

You would think that you could do RWD by removing one drive shaft, but maybe there are engineering reasons that they don't do this.

Apparently, the A6 and up will be moving to Porshce's MSB platform in the future, and that platform is rear-biased.
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Arent all Audi's FWD based with quattro AWD systems?
No. The Q3 comes standard as FWD and Quattro is an option.
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How many of those cars listed have a manual transmission option? I'd rather have a manual FWD sedan than a RWD one with 2 pedals.
Agreed. Most cars, but especially luxury cars, are losing the manual. BMW being the biggest exception.
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There was a day when FWD in North American cars was restricted to the luxury vehicles. They marketed it as cutting edge innovation even though Europe had been doing it for decades. Wasn't really until the 80s when all the econoboxes went FWD that it got the bad name it has with "enthusiasts" today.


I get that they could have marketed the car for safety and roomy interiors (without transmission and driveshaft tunnels), yet I donít know how it could have been marketed as the better enthusiast vehicle.
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I get that they could have marketed the car for safety and roomy interiors (without transmission and driveshaft tunnels), yet I donít know how it could have been marketed as the better enthusiast vehicle.
They didn't. They marketed it to the upscale luxury crowd. People bragged about having FWD. The cheap masses that came out later ruined the rep. There are some very good FWD cars out there today but they are scorned by many.
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