Vortech Supercharging System Update - More boost, more POWER!

[Chewie4299]

Personally I am nearly dead set on going SC. The only turbo I've even got on my radar is the AVO one due to both price and what appears to be a pretty quick spool.

My reasons for wanting to go SC are the below in order:

-Desire to add a chunk of power while retaining near N/A throttle response to preserve the character of the car.

-Less complex system = less to go wrong. I drive a LOT.

-Reduce/eliminate heat-related concerns under the hood.

-To explore an option that I haven't before.

-To just be different.

Still really hoping for some positive things out of Innovate if they ever come back to life and now anxious to see more from Jackson Racing. The Vortech kit is solid....but I am hoping for a little more torque.

[Visconti]

Originally Posted by Calum

Its not a sense of entitlement, they sold a defective product. They origanally advertised close to 250whp with room to grow. They had to downgrade the number 240whp and some are having trouble getting that. They also said there would be room to add more power and there wasnt. If the product delivered what they claimed and they brought out another that would be different.

Sent from mission control

My kit makes 240WHP.. using the older blower.


-John

[2forme]

Originally Posted by Visconti

My kit makes 240WHP.. using the older blower.


-John

I must have missed your dyno. Did you post it?

[evo4g63]

Originally Posted by Visconti

My kit makes 240WHP.. using the older blower.


-John

John are you selling th new blower now as well?

[Visconti]

Originally Posted by evo4g63

John are you selling th new blower now as well?

Yes I am.

Customer already has one installed

I need to update my thread but still trying to figure out if need to change any if my wording.

Anyone with the order kit will get a free upgrade to the latest version

[Calum]

Originally Posted by Visconti

My kit makes 240WHP.. using the older blower.


-John

Kudos to you for that. And your dyno didn't look like it belonged in an amusement park.

What kind of figures are you getting with the new compressor?

Have you thought about just using a V3 sci and seeing how it plays?

Oh, and HMCS Preserver was able to reach her rated top speed ONCE and once only in the last 30 years. Every other time she has run into a full power parameter before she actually made it. The boiler operator & instrumentation technician that was able to tune and manipulate the boilers to get sufficient steam flow, pressure, and temperate without melting the boilers, THIS GUY. You can keep your silly laptop and 800 what ever horsepower. I'll stick with my 20,000 horsepower. (I'm actually really jealous and would love to work with cars for a living, but alas that's not my lot in life.)

[Amadeus]

Originally Posted by 2forme

I must have missed your dyno. Did you post it?

Originally Posted by Calum

And your dyno didn't look like it belonged in an amusement park.

Is this the Dyno to which you are referring?
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...72&postcount=9

[staycrushing]

Originally Posted by Calum

Its not a sense of entitlement, they sold a defective product. They origanally advertised close to 250whp with room to grow. They had to downgrade the number 240whp and some are having trouble getting that. They also said there would be room to add more power and there wasnt. If the product delivered what they claimed and they brought out another that would be different.

Sent from mission control

after doing a quick glance at your posts it seems all you do is hang out on the forced induction forum of this site and comment and/or post against various kits including this one.

are you planning on actually buying one of these kits or are you just here for shits and giggles?

[2forme]

Originally Posted by staycrushing

after doing a quick glance at your posts it seems all you do is hang out on the forced induction forum of this site and comment and/or post against various kits including this one.

are you planning on actually buying one of these kits or are you just here for shits and giggles?

Do you really think half the people in this forum will ever buy an FI kit? LOL. I know what you're trying to say, but a majority of the people here will never lay down the cash for a kit. So what's wrong with discussion?

[norsamerican]

Originally Posted by 2forme

Do you really think half the people in this forum will ever buy an FI kit? LOL. I know what you're trying to say, but a majority of the people here will never lay down the cash for a kit. So what's wrong with discussion?

Theres a difference between discussing something and constantly requesting information on a product, critiquing said information, and giving negative opinions, over and over with no end in sight, especially when you're not even going to purchase it.
Off topic i know.
But its the negativity of people who have nothing to do with a product that are a downer on the aftermarket community.
Put yourself in a businessmans shoes, you obv. are not going to please everyone but when few people "act" like they are interested and you put time and effort to sell a product and explain it fully, then have the person or people, whom you considered a buyer, back out. You have wasted alot of time and effort for nothing.

[Darryljr11]

Has anyone dyno'd the new kit and measured the Air Fuel Ratio? Sorry if this question has been asked already.

[2forme]

Originally Posted by Darryljr11

Has anyone dyno'd the new kit and measured the Air Fuel Ratio? Sorry if this question has been asked already.

The AFR isn't necessarily related to the kit so much as the tune.

Gem dynoed the new compressor design. 239whp @ 8.5 psi.

[Sportsguy83]

Originally Posted by norsamerican

Put yourself in a businessmans shoes, you obv. are not going to please everyone but when few people "act" like they are interested and you put time and effort to sell a product and explain it fully, then have the person or people, whom you considered a buyer, back out. You have wasted alot of time and effort for nothing.

This comes with the territory and happens in every business.

[staycrushing]

Originally Posted by norsamerican

Theres a difference between discussing something and constantly requesting information on a product, critiquing said information, and giving negative opinions, over and over with no end in sight, especially when you're not even going to purchase it.
Off topic i know.
But its the negativity of people who have nothing to do with a product that are a downer on the aftermarket community.
Put yourself in a businessmans shoes, you obv. are not going to please everyone but when few people "act" like they are interested and you put time and effort to sell a product and explain it fully, then have the person or people, whom you considered a buyer, back out. You have wasted alot of time and effort for nothing.

i am a businessman, its people like this that are counterproductive to product development. when someone has a lot of posts on a forum people usually think... "oh my god he is one of the top guys here." when someone like that posts up negative remarks or calls out a big company that is trying to reach out directly and on a more personal level to consumers to promote their kit it just backfires because some guy wants to get off from e-thugging.

no one wins in this situation, the company receives a negative view from this idiots comments, the guy looks like a tool and then the person that says something back to the guy "me"... is "that guy" that decided to respond.

i am pretty mad not gonna lie... this guy has absolutely no idea how much r/d that vortech has put into this kit alone... it is also their transition into the import scene in full force and they have a group of diehard enthusiasts that work there really pushing for this. it is an honor to be a part of their marketing plan and absolutely love my kit, cant wait for the 9psi set up!!!

but when people come in and say stupid crap like it is a "defective" product... it really rustles my jimmies.

oh no... it didnt hit the 300hp on 91 pump gas... they tuned it a certain way so that it can pass cali emmisions and become CARB approved... what other FI kit out on the market can do that....? exactly... NONE.

they will have a 9psi VORTECH tune... visconti hit the advertised claim with their old kit, perrin is tearing shit up too with theirs and i believe are hovering around 13-14psi now with a wastegated kit...

hmmmmmm.