Anyone else can't stand The R35 GTR?

[HKz]

r35s can also fly and attack humans D:

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4rdpADkRhc[/ame]

[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by Tk rocket

This isn't a question about the car's performance which of course is great. This is Nissan completely going a different direction with the car let alone one that doesn't even feel like it belongs in the same lineup. Cars of course or is evolve but even the latest Mustang for example still seems to share look wise with previous generations

It has a twin turbo six cylinder with an ATTESA AWD system. V6 vs I6, but the mechanics are very similar. It was and is a technology drive sports car. Body wise, it retained the 2+2 configuration (unlike the new Supra and 350z/370z). The headlights are evolutionary and so are the fender flares. The biggest change was the nose, which reflected the current and future design language; this was more revolutionary, but probably wouldn’t have been if the motor wasn’t a wider and shorter V6, and if the car hadn’t been out of production for five years.

There is some truth to what you say in the sense that the old GTR was a suped up coupe/sedan family car—the Skyline. The Nissan GTR wasn’t a Skyline, so it was only loosely similar in shape to the Skyline that followed, or as we know it in the states, the Infinity G35/37.

For what it’s worth, the Mustang of the 80’s looked nothing like the previous gens. The Mustangs that followed looked nothing like the fifth gen that followed them, when Ford went to a retro look for the Mustang.

[86MLR]

Originally Posted by Summerwolf

No one said anything about the gtr being modular. I stated I'm a little surprised they hadn't trickled down the motor in some form or another, or invested in making that somewhat modular. Think big 3 and you'll get where I was going.

You're on a ft86 forum, obviously you're buying cheap.

Where did a penis come in to conversation? Sounds like it's on your mind..... go get some.

Kids?

There has been alot of little changes to the GTR since it was released.

I did buy cheap, I sold my 2015 STI because I didn't enjoy the STI as much as my old MX5, the 86 was a perfect fit for a little cheap RWD with enough space for the missus and her 3 bags of luggage when we go away for a weekend.

From my experience alot of people knock cars because they cannot afford them, or they are not "their" brand.

To finish, if I had more disposable income, and wanted a AWD car, the GTR would be a no brainer.

[LancePower]

Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

Altezza AWD system.

[StraightOuttaCanadaEh]

When the R32 tumbled onto the racing scene back in the early 90s, it destroyed everything, hence the name Godzilla.

The R35 did everything it was supposed to do when it first came out. It outdragged muscle cars, outran track cars at the track, etc etc. It absolutely destroyed everything like the R32 did.

Having said that, would I buy it? Maybe as a daily. I'd still prefer a stick, even if it's slower, which you can get with a GT3. I love the looks however. The performance has been eclipsed since, and it is getting long in the tooth. Comparing its relevance now as opposed to when it first came out are two different arguments.

[Tk rocket]

Originally Posted by 86MLR

From my experience alot of people knock cars because they cannot afford them, or they are not "their" brand.

There are plenty of cars that I cannot afford that I like some of them and some of them I am not a fan. Matter of fact to have a legal R34 in the u.s. in California it's a hundred fifty k way more than a used R35 so you're unaffordability reasoning is not it because they are both out of my range LOL. Also I'm a huge Nissan fans so that's not the issue as well

[86MLR]

Originally Posted by Tk rocket

There are plenty of cars that I cannot afford that I like some of them and some of them I am not a fan. Matter of fact to have a legal R34 in the u.s. in California it's a hundred fifty k way more than a used R35 so you're unaffordability reasoning is not it because they are both out of my range LOL. Also I'm a huge Nissan fans so that's not the issue as well

What is it that you would want different to the current GTR?

The R34 GTR's are going up in price everywhere, we could get them from 60kAU and up for a while, now, you cannot get anything decent under 100kAU.

Same same for the 32 GTR, you could pick up a clean import for under 30kAU a couple of years ago, ADM models went for around 60kAU, now, anything decent is 80kAU up.

Most of the cheaper are thashed out, modded or rust buckets.

The R33 are going up now as well, not to the extent of the 32 or 34 though.

But, they are new classics, only a limited number left, so prices will reflect that.

But, a stock 35 will smoke a 34 everywhere.

In saying that, I have friends who have sold their 35 to get back into a "classic" Skyline, most have gotten a 34, some a 32, from talking to them about it most of the reasoning was they wanted a classic JDM car, with a manual, however, all have stated the 35 was a faster car with better handling out of the box, they said the 32/33/34, albeit with their inherent issues with reliability and handling were more "collectable".

Me, I had the R33 (ugly duckling), but I have had my fill of old Skylines and their inherent issues, the 35 is leagues ahead.

There is nothing that matches the new GTR bang for buck wise.

[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by LancePower

Spelling, maybe autocorrect error. It is ATTESA.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATTESA..._(GT-R_version)

[Tk rocket]

Nobody is discrediting that the R35 is leagues ahead and speed and technology and so forth. What is being debated here is that the R35 simply is not a cool car especially compared to the classics Skyline

[murdoc]

Idk, I think they drive nice, and that's what matters.

[MrDinkleman]

Originally Posted by Tk rocket

Nobody is discrediting that the R35 is leagues ahead and speed and technology and so forth. What is being debated here is that the R35 simply is not a cool car especially compared to the classics Skyline

Yuppa.

Originally Posted by 86MLR

What is it that you would want different to the current GTR?

That's easy: an I6 and a 3-pedal manual transmission.

As Tk Rocket said. The R35 is probably a better car in every objective measurement but it still lost its "GTR-ishness" to me when they went with the V6. And then, to read (in this thread) that every engine is hand built, possibly/probably negating any cost savings from sharing parts/manufacturing with lesser Nissans, just made it a little bit worse.

But to say I "can't stand" it is a little harsh. I'll just say it is my least favorite model, by a long shot.

[fatoni]

i feel like the r35 is exactly what the previous generations have been before it. of course it isnt going to have the 90s vibe. im not sure there are any high performance cars that do. frs and miata are kind of all we have that feels that way imo. maybe entry level porsche but i havent spent a lot of time in one.

[Tk rocket]

Originally Posted by MrDinkleman

Yuppa.


That's easy: an I6 and a 3-pedal manual transmission.

As Tk Rocket said. The R35 is probably a better car in every objective measurement but it still lost its "GTR-ishness" to me when they went with the V6. And then, to read (in this thread) that every engine is hand built, possibly/probably negating any cost savings from sharing parts/manufacturing with lesser Nissans, just made it a little bit worse.

But to say I "can't stand" it is a little harsh. I'll just say it is my least favorite model, by a long shot.

this guy gets it

[reni]

I agree. These newfangled GT-R's are overly complicated, too heavy, and soulless compared to the originals.