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Old 07-01-2012, 07:06 PM   #1
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Has any FRS/BRZ fallen to LS V8 engine swap?

The similarly classed cars that came before the FRS/BRZ such as Miata, 180sx, 240sx, and RX-7 (non-turbo) were fitted with LSx engine by those who don't want to go JDM route of boosting with complicated parts and convoluted set-up associated with it. The results of cars swapped with LS were extremely favorable... with obvious increase in hp/tq and almost negligible change in weight and weight distribution.

Will the BRZ/FRS also follow the same fate a couple of years from now?
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Yes. I don't imagine there are many cars out there that haven't had an LSx thrown into them.
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Heard someone is already working on it..... sadly.
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When I was in college there was a kid with a Porsche 944 with a LS1 in it. Blasphemy if you ask me.
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Old 07-01-2012, 07:54 PM   #5
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When I was in college there was a kid with a Porsche 944 with a LS1 in it. Blasphemy if you ask me.
Why? I bet the LS1 is lighter than the 944 engine.

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Old 07-01-2012, 08:02 PM   #6
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Heard someone is already working on it..... sadly.
Doubling the output while not disturbing the weight distribution is simply too good to pass. With LS's favorable packaging, I bet it can also be mounted low too.
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Why? I bet the LS1 is lighter than the 944 engine.

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It's the whole fact it's a Chevy motor in a Porsche. I guess if the Porsche motor is dead, maybe it would be cheaper to put in a LS1, still, I would never do it.
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I wouldn't mind it. The LS is a pretty compact V8.
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Still in the honeymoon phase. It will happen. Just too early now. :happy0180: Also keen to seeing swaps using a toyota/Lexus V8.
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It's the whole fact it's a Chevy motor in a Porsche. I guess if the Porsche motor is dead, maybe it would be cheaper to put in a LS1, still, I would never do it.
You've got a Subaru motor in a Scion/Toyota.

Saturn put a Honda V6 in their Vue crossover.

Lotus shoves Toyota engines into their sports cars.

Nissan is set to share engines with Mercedes.


Even manufacturers do it too.
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You've got a Subaru motor in a Scion/Toyota.

Saturn put a Honda V6 in their Vue crossover.

Lotus shoves Toyota engines into their sports cars.

Nissan is set to share engines with Mercedes.


Even manufacturers do it too.
Yes, Auto Makers do share to make there cars better, why reinvent the wheel when another company has what you want. But to put a motor in a car that is from another manufacturer is Sacrilegious.

GM used Honda V6's and Toyota I-4 cause GM sucks in those areas.
Lotus doesn't make motors so they outsource.

Nothing wrong with collaboration, because it's a win-win just like Mitsubishi, Dodge, Hyundai. You get the 4B11
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It's the whole fact it's a Chevy motor in a Porsche. I guess if the Porsche motor is dead, maybe it would be cheaper to put in a LS1, still, I would never do it.
I'd rather call that a General Motor (GM), but if you insist calling it 'chevy'.....

That LS engine architecture has Le-Mans Proven reliability & durability... and victories behind it. It's a 'general motor' that can be fit in almost any FR cars even as small as Miata from 20 yrs ago without disturbing weight distribution.

GM's LS engine is almost inescapable & unavoidable option to any longitudinal engine-mounted rear drive cars our there... any brand and any model year since 1960.
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I'd rather call that a General Motor (GM), but if you insist calling it 'chevy'.....
Fine, putting that GM motor in a Porsche is blasphemy. Does that make you feel better?
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Fine, putting that GM motor in a Porsche is blasphemy. Does that make you feel better?
I'd have to 100% agree.
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