No Squeal Track Pad? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

gbgracer · 03-26-2013, 05:39 PM

Is there a trackable pad that doesn't squeal for daily driving? Just occasional track days.

Dave-ROR · 03-26-2013, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by gbgracer

Is there a trackable pad that doesn't squeal for daily driving? Just occasional track days.

Probably bedded a number of them won't, Carbotech XP10 at least included. They were silent on my car for thousands of street miles.

D1cker · 03-26-2013, 05:50 PM

Xp10's are relatively quiet, but nothing is going to be completely silent.

Dave-ROR · 03-26-2013, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by D1cker

Xp10's are relatively quiet, but nothing is going to be completely silent.

ok at 1mph they went "squeak"

D1cker · 03-26-2013, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

ok at 1mph they went "squeak"

Just like the XP10's I used to run on my miata

GTM_Challenge · 03-26-2013, 06:23 PM

XP8 on my miata were fine the first few days after the track. Then they started to make some noise when coming to a complete stop.

HP+ made noise on the S2000 and those aren't really a full track pad. Cobalt XR2 and XR1 made noise on the s2000, Hawk HT10 and DTC60/70 all made noise.

I don't think there is such thing as a completely silent track pad that won't made noise after properly being bedded on track, but then being used for extended time on the street between track events. They will also likely dust like a mofo on the street.

CSG Mike · 03-26-2013, 08:11 PM

Most track pads will pass "the girl test" after proper bedding. Carbotech XP10s are our most popular pad for the FR-S/BRZ, followed by the Club Racer.

gbgracer · 03-26-2013, 09:49 PM

What about Carbotech XP8's. Is that enough pad for the occasional track day? I'm running Michelin Super Sports in 225/45/17 so grippier than stock but not R comps. Plus, they will be for lapping days only. No autocross or TT's

I am an active racer w/SCCA so I will drive the car hard but I also know how to be gentle(relatively speaking on brakes)

Dave-ROR · 03-26-2013, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by gbgracer

What about Carbotech XP8's. Is that enough pad for the occasional track day? I'm running Michelin Super Sports in 225/45/17 so grippier than stock but not R comps. Plus, they will be for lapping days only. No autocross or TT's

I am an active racer w/SCCA so I will drive the car hard but I also know how to be gentle(relatively speaking on brakes)

You'll probably exceed their MOT if you are pushing it honestly...

orthojoe · 03-26-2013, 10:07 PM

There's no such thing as best of both worlds. Swap in/out street/track pads. You'll save more money in the long run and will totally happy with street/track performance.

fwiw, the project mu club racer pads squeak on the street, but it's not very loud. A very light mousey squeak, not ear piercing like some pads. Keep in mind that running a track pad on the street is harsh on your rotors since the pads can never get up to proper working temp. People use track pads to clear off pad deposits on the street since they are very abrasive when cold.

JRitt · 03-27-2013, 11:00 AM

IMO these pads would be about as close as you can get to a hybrid street/track pad right now:

Ferodo DS2500
CL Brakes RC5+
Endless MX72

Out of those, the Endless MX72 is the quietest.

I can put any of these in your hands if you're interested.:happy0180:

NorseLegend · 03-27-2013, 11:12 AM

Maybe some StopTech stuff? I'm looking at a set of pads and rotors

CSG Mike · 03-27-2013, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by NorseLegend

Maybe some StopTech stuff?

Unfortunately, as previous stated, there is no "best of both worlds". Stoptech makes a great street product, but not a great mixed duty product.

JRitt · 03-27-2013, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Unfortunately, as previous stated, there is no "best of both worlds". Stoptech makes a great street product, but not a great mixed duty product.

Agree with this 100%. Their branded street pads are just that, street pads. There are many folks who have tried to use them on the tracks and have had all sorts of uneven pad deposits, judder, etc. They just don't have the max operating temps required for track use.

03-26-2013, 05:39 PM	#1
gbgracer Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: 2011 STI Location: Dallas Posts: 40 Thanks: 1 Thanked 9 Times in 6 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	No Squeal Track Pad? Is there a trackable pad that doesn't squeal for daily driving? Just occasional track days.

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orthojoe Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Drives: BRZ Location: USA Posts: 485 Thanks: 199 Thanked 339 Times in 158 Posts Mentioned: 20 Post(s) Tagged: 10 Thread(s)	There's no such thing as best of both worlds. Swap in/out street/track pads. You'll save more money in the long run and will totally happy with street/track performance. fwiw, the project mu club racer pads squeak on the street, but it's not very loud. A very light mousey squeak, not ear piercing like some pads. Keep in mind that running a track pad on the street is harsh on your rotors since the pads can never get up to proper working temp. People use track pads to clear off pad deposits on the street since they are very abrasive when cold. __________________ 2013 Subaru BRZ

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JRitt Join Date: Feb 2012 Drives: 2012 BRZ Premium WRB 6MT Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 689 Thanks: 224 Thanked 1,411 Times in 376 Posts Mentioned: 80 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	IMO these pads would be about as close as you can get to a hybrid street/track pad right now: Ferodo DS2500 CL Brakes RC5+ Endless MX72 Out of those, the Endless MX72 is the quietest. I can put any of these in your hands if you're interested.:happy0180: __________________ Jeff Ritter\|Mgr.- High Performance Division Exclusive Importer AP Racing and Ferodo Racing www.essexparts.com

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D1cker Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: B9 S4/ND2 Location: Fullerton, CA Posts: 522 Thanks: 190 Thanked 182 Times in 106 Posts Mentioned: 21 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Xp10's are relatively quiet, but nothing is going to be completely silent.

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GTM_Challenge Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: On track Location: Chicago Posts: 527 Thanks: 120 Thanked 284 Times in 166 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	XP8 on my miata were fine the first few days after the track. Then they started to make some noise when coming to a complete stop. HP+ made noise on the S2000 and those aren't really a full track pad. Cobalt XR2 and XR1 made noise on the s2000, Hawk HT10 and DTC60/70 all made noise. I don't think there is such thing as a completely silent track pad that won't made noise after properly being bedded on track, but then being used for extended time on the street between track events. They will also likely dust like a mofo on the street.

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gbgracer Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: 2011 STI Location: Dallas Posts: 40 Thanks: 1 Thanked 9 Times in 6 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	What about Carbotech XP8's. Is that enough pad for the occasional track day? I'm running Michelin Super Sports in 225/45/17 so grippier than stock but not R comps. Plus, they will be for lapping days only. No autocross or TT's I am an active racer w/SCCA so I will drive the car hard but I also know how to be gentle(relatively speaking on brakes)

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