follow ft86club on our blog, twitter or facebook.
FT86CLUB
Ft86Club
Speed By Design
Register Garage Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Go Back   Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community - FT86CLUB > Technical Topics > Issues | Warranty | Recalls / TSB

Issues | Warranty | Recalls / TSB Problems, issues, recalls, TSBs


User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 10-17-2012, 06:26 AM   #1
frosty86
Senior Member
 
frosty86's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Drives: '13 FR-S (Whiteout) Manual
Location: Hawaii
Posts: 247
Thanks: 73
Thanked 164 Times in 72 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Transmission Problem

I've been babying this 86 from the first day I got it and the 2nd gear no longer shifts smoothly no matter how slowly and delicately I do it. There's always a nudge when the gear locks in. It never used to do this but all sorts of funny stuff started happening after 400 miles for me (including pet crickets in my engine and rattling rear end).
It also occasionally makes funny slushy noises like I'm grinding glass slowly in a power blender. This happens often when I'm going downhill or uphill. Shift knob also feels tacky and stiff.
My dealer insists that it's all ECU and that everything is ECU related. I just can't wrap my head around regarding how a small chip would make it all go away at once.

What if the car just has a bad transmission and engine to begin with?
What are they gonna do, replace the whole car for us? (rhetorical question)

Anyway, my real question is, anyone else here experiencing noticeable increase in roughness in their transmission?
frosty86 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-17-2012, 06:39 AM   #2
_F-R-S_
Banned
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Drives: 13 whiteout scion frs
Location: Baltimore
Posts: 1,261
Thanks: 621
Thanked 202 Times in 155 Posts
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 3 Thread(s)
Try changing the transmission fluid,, worth a try
_F-R-S_ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-17-2012, 09:26 AM   #3
post_break
Professional Smartass
 
post_break's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Drives: White Out FRS
Location: Houston TX
Posts: 1,126
Thanks: 114
Thanked 610 Times in 308 Posts
Mentioned: 51 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
I have had a crunchy 2nd for a long time. The perrin rear shift bushing fixed it completely (except for the first time I shift into 2nd when everything is cold). Definitely try it. It's a $40 upgrade. The stock bushing is pathetic and now every gear for me is smooth. Also I swapped to motul fluids in the transmission and that helped too.
post_break is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-17-2012, 09:30 AM   #4
Cheddar
Saving them pennies...
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Drives: 2013 FR-S
Location: Miami, FL
Posts: 641
Thanks: 44
Thanked 178 Times in 111 Posts
Mentioned: 17 Post(s)
Tagged: 3 Thread(s)
Same here since day 1 its always "clunked" into 2nd when normal driving. After 4000 miles iv noticed once its warmed up, it goes away.
Cheddar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-17-2012, 09:32 AM   #5
DarkSunrise
Senior Member
 
DarkSunrise's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Drives: 22 BRZ (Previously 13 FR-S)
Location: USA
Posts: 5,794
Thanks: 2,164
Thanked 4,242 Times in 2,220 Posts
Mentioned: 48 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
My 2nd gear was notchy at the beginning, but now is smooth as butter. I haven't changed anything on the car, so not sure how it happened. But now my 5th gear is getting notchy, feeling the "nudge" every once in a while going into the gate.
DarkSunrise is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-02-2012, 06:18 PM   #6
twodollarcuts
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Drives: Subaru BRZ Limited
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 30
Thanks: 6
Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Having the same problem with 2nd at times. I'm finding that shifting into 6th can feel like a chore, like there's something blocking me from shifting into gear. Started feeling it just this week. I'm a little over 2000 miles now, but I'm doing a lot more inner-city driving while during the first 1500 I did mainly freeways. It's good to know I'm not the only one, but it sucks having the problem.
twodollarcuts is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-02-2012, 06:24 PM   #7
zoomzoomers
Senior Member
 
zoomzoomers's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Drives: 2013 Subaru SWP BRZ Limited 6AT
Location: Darkside
Posts: 1,862
Thanks: 526
Thanked 305 Times in 207 Posts
Mentioned: 9 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
From the sounds of it you guys seem to be experiencing some syncro issues. Maybe an expert can chime in here. Good luck guys.
__________________
Man Law#17:A man in the company of a hot, seductively dressed, woman MUST remain sober enough to fight!

MODS: AVO tubes + filter, Cusco (F) strut brace w/ MC brace, Perrin CBE, Subaru OEM trunk tray, Grimmspeed front license re-locator & hood struts and Beatsonic rear cam.
zoomzoomers is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-02-2012, 08:48 PM   #8
Sigh-on-Rice
Waited 5 years for this
 
Sigh-on-Rice's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Drives: '18 MX-5 Club
Location: IL
Posts: 1,257
Thanks: 901
Thanked 801 Times in 281 Posts
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by frosty86 View Post
the 2nd gear no longer shifts smoothly no matter how slowly and delicately I do it. There's always a nudge when the gear locks in.
This car is my 4th car with manual transmission and I felt the same way on the other cars too, so I'm just thinking this is normal.

Quote:
Originally Posted by frosty86 View Post
pet crickets in my engine
Hopefully, we get this fixed someday. I'm not getting this fixed just yet because I hear that the noise comes back in less than 1000 miles after the fix.

Quote:
Originally Posted by frosty86 View Post
rattling rear end
I'm not sure what kind of noise you're hearing, but I pretty much listed down all the noise coming from the rear.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13451

Quote:
Originally Posted by frosty86 View Post
It also occasionally makes funny slushy noises like I'm grinding glass slowly in a power blender. This happens often when I'm going downhill or uphill.
If you're talking about the clutch noise, then I noticed it too. It seems like it's normal noise for this type of clutch.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8112
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8344

Quote:
Originally Posted by frosty86 View Post
Anyway, my real question is, anyone else here experiencing noticeable increase in roughness in their transmission?
I believe my 2nd gear got a little bit smoother after 3k to 4k miles. But it never is as smooth as 3rd, 4th, and etc. I'd say it's not something you should be worried about.
Sigh-on-Rice is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Sigh-on-Rice For This Useful Post:
frosty86 (11-02-2012)
Old 11-02-2012, 11:40 PM   #9
Gen
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Drives: Scion FR-S
Location: Under a rock
Posts: 1,060
Thanks: 75
Thanked 552 Times in 270 Posts
Mentioned: 39 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
I have no shifting problems at low RPMs. At High RPMs it seems 3rd and 4th gear almost always grind with a quick shift. To prevent grinding, I pretty much have to wait a full second after clutch in before shifting.
Gen is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Gen For This Useful Post:
Mo707 (11-03-2012)
Old 11-02-2012, 11:49 PM   #10
dsgerbc
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Drives: BRZ(sold), STI
Location: A2, MI
Posts: 1,915
Thanks: 176
Thanked 419 Times in 241 Posts
Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
What annoys me is that it won't go into 2nd smoothly even if I rev-match downshifts perfectly.
dsgerbc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-02-2012, 11:53 PM   #11
_F-R-S_
Banned
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Drives: 13 whiteout scion frs
Location: Baltimore
Posts: 1,261
Thanks: 621
Thanked 202 Times in 155 Posts
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 3 Thread(s)
How much of a reaistance does it give. Its normal to have a little and is it ever smooth
_F-R-S_ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-2012, 07:00 AM   #12
jesperswe
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Drives: GT86
Location: sweden
Posts: 267
Thanks: 0
Thanked 73 Times in 42 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
My 2nd gear gets better the warmer it is. When cold it's much harder to get in and sometimes make strange sounds
But since I got warranty I don't really bother about it. I think every manual sportscar i've ever owned had harder 2nd gear shift.

I've always thought that they make the syncros or something harder/tougher on 2nd gear,
because people tend to WOT in 1st then fast shift to 2nd alot more often/faster than full WOT 2nd to 3rd for example?
Atleast I do it quite often since i mostly do city miles.
jesperswe is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to jesperswe For This Useful Post:
DJCarbine (12-21-2013)
Old 11-03-2012, 09:59 AM   #13
djliquidsteele
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Drives: Scion FR-S
Location: Louisville, KY
Posts: 498
Thanks: 62
Thanked 130 Times in 92 Posts
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
P-E-N-T-O-S-I-N

Seriously, worth the upgrade for transmission fluid. I don't know if all high performance transmission fluid makes it feel this good, but I'm telling you, every gear is buttery smooth whether its cold or warm.
djliquidsteele is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-2012, 10:49 AM   #14
OrbitalEllipses
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Drives: Attitude
Location: MD
Posts: 10,046
Thanks: 884
Thanked 4,889 Times in 2,902 Posts
Mentioned: 123 Post(s)
Tagged: 4 Thread(s)
Mine doesn't make noises unless I fuck up the shifts, which does happen. 2nd gear doesn't FEEL good when cold, especially when it's been cold out at night. It sounds like you're having problems beyond that though.
OrbitalEllipses is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
A bit of a problem Gost Other Vehicles & General Automotive Discussions 13 02-12-2013 07:07 PM
ABS Problem chrislee2423 Mechanical Maintenance (Oil, Fluids, Break-In, Servicing) 2 07-09-2012 04:06 PM
anyone with this problem? debs0712 Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum 2 06-30-2012 10:17 AM
topspeed difference between manual transmission and automatic transmission torquemada BRZ First-Gen (2012+) -- General Topics 51 05-04-2012 07:54 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:59 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Garage vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.