ARC Super Induction Box for Toyota 86

[ill86]

Originally Posted by FR-Sizzle

LOL even people who like Arc even think this intake is a waste of money. It might have fantastic craftsmanship but anyone can see that this was just made to sell just for people who are like you. You really think they put much R&D into this?

You can get a tune that will add just as much power as this and I doubt that this would increase performance much at all if you get a tune. People who have a tune with intakes all have seen similar gains. The gains are more from the tune than the intakes as this engine already has a well built intake from the factory which is why you see drop in filters as the best option. Ask any tuner, they will tell you that after market intakes make it MUCH harder to tune than the stock intake.

Your gains are from leaning the AFR's out. After you get a tune its doubtful this intake will do anything to make your gains that much better. For how much this intake costs you can get a tune and a drop in filter that will produce much better results than this hot air intake. This is for show more than anything. An open air element filter like this will suck in so much hot air. It still uses the OEM orchodion tube. A intake pipe and drop in filter cost 200 dollars and will produce the same results as this and they wont be using leaned out AFR's to make the gains unlike your hot air intake.

Anyone can put a cone filter where your Arc box would go and it would probably produce the same amount of power due to leaning out the AFR's. Only difference is the filter costs probably 100 bucks compared to your over priced box that will soak up even more heat. Notice how other intakes being sold modify the inlet tube also. That IMO is where a lot of the R&D goes due to the air straighteners and how messing with the orchodion tube will change the cars AFR's. This intake from Arc you can tell there was very little R&D done. Just a box with there open element filter that owners from other cars/platforms even say that the filter doesnt even filter well and is more for show than anything else. Theres a reason why people only put these on at car shows and take them off after.

A change in the Afr.. You don't say lol... Imagine that.


I honestly don't care if you don't like ARC. I measured intake temps on track and on the street. They are much better than you think or give credit.

If you want to follow sheep.. Go ahead.. But do yourself a favor andand research ARC Japan.. They are far from show parts.

Next you'll be telling me Endless Brakes are for show too..

Again. You like your part people and I like mine. So don't worry about what others do to their car.

I never said this intake was better than some other one. I choose to purchase it because I wanted it.

[Andrew025]

Originally Posted by ill86

A change in the Afr.. You don't say lol... Imagine that.


I honestly don't care if you don't like ARC. I measured intake temps on track and on the street. They are much better than better you think or give credit.

If you want to follow sheep.. Go ahead.. But do yourself a favor andand research ARC Japan.. They are far from show parts.

Next you'll be telling me Endless Brakes are for show too..

Again. You like your part people and I like mine. So don't worry about what others do to their car.

I never said this intake was better than some other one. I choose to purchase it because I wanted it.

Are you able to provide that data?

[s2d4]

Originally Posted by ill86

A change in the Afr.. You don't say lol... Imagine that.


I honestly don't care if you don't like ARC. I measured intake temps on track and on the street. They are much better than better you think or give credit.

If you want to follow sheep.. Go ahead.. But do yourself a favor andand research ARC Japan.. They are far from show parts.

Next you'll be telling me Endless Brakes are for show too..

Again. You like your part people and I like mine. So don't worry about what others do to their car.

I never said this intake was better than some other one. I choose to purchase it because I wanted it.

Old ARC Japan yes.
Nothing of that calibre recently.

[ill86]

Originally Posted by Andrew025

Are you able to provide that data?

Yes. I already have in another thread here.

[ill86]

Originally Posted by s2d4

Old ARC Japan yes.
Nothing of that calibre recently.

Why do you say that? I have ARC parts from the 90's, 00's and 2013. Quality is still very good.

I have a tmic and Bov on my GT-FOUR.
An entire catolog on my Z33.
And the intake on my 86.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

[1ofaKind]

I might just buy another ARC INTAKE lol, ARC FTW

[manonastick]

I have my doubts in this intake but if I had the money I will definitely get it just the fact thing looks great! Dunno why everyone is putting this guys down when he spent his "own" money on something he likes and when buying something most important thing is liking the thing as human we are a emotional creature. Design looks questionable but with this guys having intake in sure he has a better insight to how it performs compared to the stock intake. If everyone tried making logical decision before making a purchase I don't even think the term "sports car " will exist.

Looking nice buddy I would buy one if I had the cash .

[Andrew025]

Originally Posted by manonastick

I have my doubts in this intake but if I had the money I will definitely get it just the fact thing looks great! Dunno why everyone is putting this guys down when he spent his "own" money on something he likes and when buying something most important thing is liking the thing as human we are a emotional creature. Design looks questionable but with this guys having intake in sure he has a better insight to how it performs compared to the stock intake. If everyone tried making logical decision before making a purchase I don't even think the term "sports car " will exist.

Looking nice buddy I would buy one if I had the cash .

No one is putting him down for spending his own money. It's due to his opinion of the intake and posting it as fact.

There's plenty of first hand owners with short ram intakes and think/insist they perform better than stock even though there is data showing quite the opposite.

We're all skeptical because there is no data on this thing and people are assuming it performs well based on it preforming well on a completely different platform (which is obviously nonsense and non applicable), being from Arc and expensive.

I would be willing to throw money down on this if it is proven to work well... But we don't have the information.

Originally Posted by ill86

Yes. I already have in another thread here.

I tried looking for it but didn't see it. Which thread is it?

[1ofaKind]

Much respect to the 2 opinions above...

[s2d4]

Originally Posted by ill86

Why do you say that? I have ARC parts from the 90's, 00's and 2013. Quality is still very good.

I have a tmic and Bov on my GT-FOUR.
An entire catolog on my Z33.
And the intake on my 86.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

Just haven't seen anything recently better than the stuff they made for the R32/33/34 GTRs.

[executivekoala]

Why all the arguments? Why no dynos?

[DimSumHero]

Well I've been running the ARC box for about a month now and I really like it certainly added abit more to the engine note and I do like the more pronounced suction noise that aftermarket intakes have.

Install was very stupid easy and I had installed it along with the Cusco Inlet pipe.

As far as any possible gains go it feels abit quicker to the punch from my original factory air box and my idle certainly seemed to level out. all in all if you have the cash or got a sweet deal on it like I did then it's certainly a unique piece of kit that gets some ohh's and ahh's when you pop the hood.

Potato Quality Pic since I don't have my DSLR on me

[Sherb]

Originally Posted by 1ofaKind

Lol I have done research and posted links of dyno graphs of this intake making power on other platforms on this forum for the unbelievers. I have been ''Registered'' on this forum for one year yes. So because your account says registered longer you want bonus points? get on track my friend and stop posting false information if you have never had it, tested it or owned one actually. All you have done is read what others posted, so you are not qualified to speak on it. You said you went ahead saved money and got a tune? Good for you man. lol

Lol I didn't read everything but this intake is a waste of money. You might as well save up more now get that revolution/gruppe-m carbon fiber intake that is proven to make power unlike this piece of crap lol. At least with the gruppe m you get Bling and performance. This intake just has bling and probably makes your car run lean as fuck