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Old 11-07-2019, 03:37 AM   #169
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It would be rad to make a button housing that would fit into the little nook or whatever it is called thats next to the aux input/ usb on the console


as an autox-er in the san diego area, going into the OFT and having the pedal dance mode active while racing but then turning it off between heats ( like in a bmw event) it gets to be kinda a pain.
if it was a switch on the console, easy day.

and it shouldnt be too hard to make a faceplate that snaps into the nook type dealie

i dunno maybe other people use it.

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I found the nook switch panel and Im an idiot for not lurking more : https://www.seriesblueadventures.com.../switch-panel/

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Old 11-07-2019, 09:56 AM   #170
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well i have it but its experimental. Since i dont have a local track to test it out its more difficult for me to confirm this.
Trust me, you don't want ABS disable for track work. It doesn't work. It's well documented. It might be nice for drifters, but for track stuff, the bias is off and is a bad decision.

Proven that the standard Pedal Dance is all that is required for track work/racing. I w2w race my car and that's all I use or need.
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Old 11-07-2019, 05:22 PM   #171
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Well my car isnt even titled, registered or insured so no street driving here. However I do see a legal liability issue there.. hopefully I'll remember to preorder tomorrow
I just ordered 4 of them, would love the SRS light off as well.

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Old 11-07-2019, 06:26 PM   #172
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I get consistent "ice mode" with PD. It happens on a straight line or mid corner sweeper. Am I doing something wrong?
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Old 11-07-2019, 06:54 PM   #173
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well i have it but its experimental. Since i dont have a local track to test it out its more difficult for me to confirm this.
Is it possible to preorder with ABS disable wired in with the understanding it's experimental?
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Old 11-07-2019, 07:08 PM   #174
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I get consistent "ice mode" with PD. It happens on a straight line or mid corner sweeper. Am I doing something wrong?
Don't jump on the brake pedal. That will do it every time, because it forces your ABS program to immediately dump rear bias, sending it all to the front, and increasing Ice Mode potential

Try to straighten the wheel as much as possible before braking.

Try a pad with less initial bite, or matches up better with your tire grip. "Endurance" compounds are always a great choice for smooth initial bite and ABS compatibility.

I've had it only about 1 time, and I'm in a race car on hoosiers, using Raybestos ST42. Those are the lowest bite, "enduro" compound they offer, and it's as much initial bite and torque as I'd want. I have been thrilled with the lack of ABS interference thus far. I have tons of experience trying to dodge "ice mode" in Porsches. The key is to use an endurance style pad that has a torque curve that rises slightly with heat. It allows much better modulation and plays nicer with ABS programs.
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Old 11-07-2019, 07:43 PM   #175
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I just ordered 4 of them, would love the SRS light off as well.

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Well if you have a gutten car/ race car only then sure. But this won't be something I will do in general. The way I can try and do it is by emulating the airbag ecu. But even then I can't promise it working. It's a il tos it in there to see if it works.

Same for the ABS disable. Not sure about it so I won't claim I can do that. I can add it but no guarantee.

Originally I assumed that the abs disable though canbus is the same as pulling the fuse. But (some people) are saying that in their old beastronix it did not turn off the brake biassing (from what they can tell). So it would be interesting to see if what I found is similar to that or not.

But I agree. In a track ABS disable isn't usefully at all. If your drifting or want to go sideways then sure. But at that point why not just pull the abs fuse.
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Old 11-07-2019, 08:08 PM   #176
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Well if you have a gutten car/ race car only then sure. But this won't be something I will do in general. The way I can try and do it is by emulating the airbag ecu. But even then I can't promise it working. It's a il tos it in there to see if it works.

Same for the ABS disable. Not sure about it so I won't claim I can do that. I can add it but no guarantee.

Originally I assumed that the abs disable though canbus is the same as pulling the fuse. But (some people) are saying that in their old beastronix it did not turn off the brake biassing (from what they can tell). So it would be interesting to see if what I found is similar to that or not.

But I agree. In a track ABS disable isn't usefully at all. If your drifting or want to go sideways then sure. But at that point why not just pull the abs fuse.

From everything I can remember and could tell legitimately, abs disable did not change bias. I'd simply get a wheel lock up where I was getting ice mode without the disable. Everywhere else, exactly the same performance and different from the fuse pull, which was undrivable. Relatively speaking. AutoX, in the dry on asphalt, and in the rain on concrete. Never got even PD to work while I had that car. Maybe pads (AX-6), maybe surface, definitely driving.
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From everything I can remember and could tell legitimately, abs disable did not change bias. I'd simply get a wheel lock up where I was getting ice mode without the disable. Everywhere else, exactly the same performance and different from the fuse pull, which was undrivable. Relatively speaking. AutoX, in the dry on asphalt, and in the rain on concrete. Never got even PD to work while I had that car. Maybe pads (AX-6), maybe surface, definitely driving.
you had a 17+ or a 13-16?

since the PD works a bit differently, and so does the various levels or TC/ VSC / ABS / brake bias.
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you had a 17+ or a 13-16?

since the PD works a bit differently, and so does the various levels or TC/ VSC / ABS / brake bias.
That was in a '14.

Have to check, I think the aftermarket stereo uses the canbus plug for the steering wheel control adapter in the '17, but I'd like to try one of these in the new car. Things to sort out while the car waits for spring.
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That was in a '14.

Have to check, I think the aftermarket stereo uses the canbus plug for the steering wheel control adapter in the '17, but I'd like to try one of these in the new car. Things to sort out while the car waits for spring.

no the steering wheel adapters are usually within the 24 or 28pin plugs. the steering wheels are resistive type not canbus. But not sure if your installation system usest that connector for power and ground.
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I get consistent "ice mode" with PD. It happens on a straight line or mid corner sweeper. Am I doing something wrong?
+1 on others, ease into the brakes, stomping on them is a surefire way to get ice mode, good habit to learn imho, stomping on the brakes last minute to get that extra few feet of acceleration and not totally blowing the corner is an instance of the "nannies" saving you from yourself. It certainly took me some time to unlearn.
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Yup! I actually contacted him to know how the switch worked to make it work with it too. (sorry I did not know this was you! Lol). So I have a couple of wires available there. One is 12v+ that turns on when the car is on. One is ground from the car. And a third wire will be the actual signal to the device. It's a 12v inputs for it so it should work perfectly fine with those switches. ( I based my design around those because I am ganna buy some too lol). The only thing is that the 12v and the ground do need to be connected to multiple switches though. So a little Daisy chain would need to be done.

Do any of you guys know what terminals those switches uses? I mean for the backside. As in a generic slide in connector like a speaker tabs?

Edit: and each additional signal has its own cable. But the 12v and ground need to be shared.
Hey Gerald,

When you say this works with the seriesblueadventures switches, do you mean we can wire each toggle switch to each function?

i.e. one switch to turn on/off pedal dance, one switch for fan control, etc.

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Hey Gerald,

When you say this works with the seriesblueadventures switches, do you mean we can wire each toggle switch to each function?

i.e. one switch to turn on/off pedal dance, one switch for fan control, etc.

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Yup pritty much. you can select how many features you want. or bundle multiple ones with a single switch etc..
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