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Old 07-01-2016, 10:47 AM   #15
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So... now that you have direct support for the Edelbrock SC and your own OFT350 turbo kit, what would you consider the pros/cons between the two for a daily-driven street car? I understand the obvious advantage the Edelbrock has in strict emissions states like CA, but if the lack of a CARB certificate isn't an issue... is the Edelbrock worth the extra $1400 over the OFT350/SBD turbo setup?
I don't want this to devolve into a typical Turbo vs. Supercharger debate as I'm well aware of the fundamental differences/trade-offs... I mostly want to focus on these two products and the support you provide for them through the OFT.
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I'd love to see an overlay of their dyno plots to see where they are similar and where they differ!

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Same... I'm thinking the OFT350/SBD turbo is still the biggest bang for the buck. (assuming CARB isn't a factor, of course) but it would be interesting to get shiv's perspective.

The edlebrock also appears to be the less "intrusive" installation since you're just changing out bolt-on parts rather than swapping oil pans and cutting crash beams.. But I'm not sure it's easier.
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Same... I'm thinking the OFT350/SBD turbo is still the biggest bang for the buck. (assuming CARB isn't a factor, of course) but it would be interesting to get shiv's perspective.

The edlebrock also appears to be the less "intrusive" installation since you're just changing out bolt-on parts rather than swapping oil pans and cutting crash beams.. But I'm not sure it's easier.
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That's what i'm thinking too. from dynos i could find the edelbrock has a bit more torque under 5K and the SBD kit a bit more over 5k, but their curves look really similar overall. what are your thoughts @Shiv@Openflash?

Another thing to consider is that the edelbrock kit adds ~60lbs pretty high up in the engine bay. I don't know the weight of the turbo kit, which sits lower down but also further forward.
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That's what i'm thinking too. from dynos i could find the edelbrock has a bit more torque under 5K and the SBD kit a bit more over 5k, but their curves look really similar overall. what are your thoughts @Shiv@Openflash?

Another thing to consider is that the edelbrock kit adds ~60lbs pretty high up in the engine bay. I don't know the weight of the turbo kit, which sits lower down but also further forward.
The last sentence is something I've been wondering which is the lesser of two evils, weight higher up, or farther forward?

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Another thing to consider is that the edelbrock kit adds ~60lbs pretty high up in the engine bay. I don't know the weight of the turbo kit, which sits lower down but also further forward.
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The last sentence is something I've been wondering which is the lesser of two evils, weight higher up, or farther forward?
I own an Edelbrock and driven a JRSC'd car (granted, not the same, but similar weight and placement as the SBD) on a canyon road and I am hard pressed to feel the difference. Same goes on the track, stock vs Edelbrock, no difference in dynamics (weight transfer), but I'm a novice driver at best
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I own an Edelbrock and driven a JRSC'd car (granted, not the same, but similar weight and placement as the SBD) on a canyon road and I am hard pressed to feel the difference. Same goes on the track, stock vs Edelbrock, no difference in dynamics (weight transfer), but I'm a novice driver at best
How do you like the Edelbrock? I tried looking for a review in your posts but didn't see one.
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How do you like the Edelbrock? I tried looking for a review in your posts but didn't see one.
Lol, not sure if it's not evident enough on my posts (or how often I post about it in the owners thread), but I'm very happy with the kit. I was dead set on a JRSC until I took a tour of the Edelbrock facility and made the mistake of taking a ride with one of the engineers.

My car is mostly for DD and the semi-regular weekend twisties, so the mid-range grunt really helps. I can stay in 6th when passing on the freeway on my daily commute and usually just stay in 3rd or 4th when doing a canyon run (just "point & squirt" but now my heel-toe technique has suffered greatly). Although I'm a turbo guy (owned several, this is my first SC'd car), I think the linear power matches the original character of the car very well. I've ridden in a friends SBD car and, although the turbo surge is fun on a straight, it felt too much like an "on-off" switch on the twisties.

I can't comment on OFT (I have met Shiv and he seems like a nice guy), but Edelbrock tech support is top notch, plus it helps that they are in the same state. CARB is great , but if you don't need it and already have an OFT, this is a nice plus (I would note that if you do need CARB, I would asume that going with OFT won't work)
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Sounds like a blast, I'm a turbo guy too, but the edelbrock SC just sounds so nice after reading all about it.
I'm in Florida, so what's this about carburetors? :P

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Sounds like a blast, I'm a turbo guy too, but the edelbrock SC just sounds so nice after reading all about it.
I'm in Florida, so what's this about carburetors? :P

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