PROcede ESC User Software!

[Sojhinn]

Originally Posted by DAEMANO

I tested it out again tonight. The stall is at idle in 1st gear with the clutch being let go. Basic first gear stall, and the compressor stays on after the car shuts off. I have to turn the key to the off position to get it to shut off. Interesting, right? Can you test yours to see if it does the same?

Can't do anything about this. It will happen with how the Procede and the esc are setup. Just don't stall.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Sojhinn]

@TM Woot! Thanks bro.

As for the deceleration... I'll work on this. I had this happen to me twice and I think I have an idea on how to fix this. But I'm a little worried it will affect the performance. It may not.


Can you tell me exactly how it happens and I'll look at the Procede map. Or a recording from the oft may help too.



Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[TM]

Originally Posted by Sojhinn

@TMCan you tell me exactly how it happens and I'll look at the Procede map. Or a recording from the oft may help too.

I can't read the tablet on my mac for some reason (but it works with the procede controller), so I'm afraid I can't provide a log right now.

It's more noticeable in lower gears, say 2nd. Just accelerate at partial or WOT with the ESC activated and then let off of the throttle. It doesn't have to be let go instantly, just semi-quickly.

[Sojhinn]

Originally Posted by TM

I can't read the tablet on my mac for some reason (but it works with the procede controller), so I'm afraid I can't provide a log right now.



It's more noticeable in lower gears, say 2nd. Just accelerate at partial or WOT with the ESC activated and then let off of the throttle. It doesn't have to be let go instantly, just semi-quickly.

Do you think it's too much boost or not enough?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[fenton]

Originally Posted by Sojhinn

Do you think it's too much boost or not enough?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

This usually means the brake is not fast enough on the comp....when letting off, the throttle plate closes and if the compressor doesnt brake immediately you end up building boost and it makes the car want to go forward until the compressor shuts off.

When we had the brake not as aggressive in earlier revisions if you went wot and then got off the throttle to decelerate quickly in gear the car would lurch forward until the brake slowed the compressor. Same thing goes if you WOT really quick and then clutch in to neutral.... throttle plate will close and the engine can stall if the compressor runs too long.

[TM]

Originally Posted by fenton

This usually means the brake is not fast enough on the comp....when letting off, the throttle plate closes and if the compressor doesnt brake immediately you end up building boost and it makes the car want to go forward until the compressor shuts off.

When we had the brake not as aggressive in earlier revisions if you went wot and then got off the throttle to decelerate quickly in gear the car would lurch forward until the brake slowed the compressor. Same thing goes if you WOT really quick and then clutch in to neutral.... throttle plate will close and the engine can stall if the compressor runs too long.

Makes sense. Would this be harmful to the compressor if done often? I can see this happening when I activate boost to pass someone on the highway and then letting go after I make the pass. If so, should I have the compressor brakes upgraded?

[DAEMANO]

Originally Posted by Sojhinn

Can't do anything about this. It will happen with how the Procede and the esc are setup. Just don't stall.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

will look for a solution.

[Sojhinn]

Originally Posted by fenton

This usually means the brake is not fast enough on the comp....when letting off, the throttle plate closes and if the compressor doesnt brake immediately you end up building boost and it makes the car want to go forward until the compressor shuts off.

When we had the brake not as aggressive in earlier revisions if you went wot and then got off the throttle to decelerate quickly in gear the car would lurch forward until the brake slowed the compressor. Same thing goes if you WOT really quick and then clutch in to neutral.... throttle plate will close and the engine can stall if the compressor runs too long.

If this is the issue; There's an easy fix. Shiv had it setup that the esc prespools when shifting gears. We can disable this at lower rpms so that way when you hit the gas and then let off it won't prespool but I'm not sure if we would want to change that for higher rpms.

1 issue though. I don't have my laptop and I'm no where near it for a while (very long while) I can walk someone through it though.
@TM it's not the esc it's the Procede prespoolinf for gear shifts.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[TM]

What exactly is the procede prespooling? I was under the impression that the compressor is physically moving.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Sojhinn]

Originally Posted by TM

What exactly is the procede prespooling? I was under the impression that the compressor is physically moving.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

If you hammer the throttle and then shift gears on the old switch the compressor would come to a stop and then switch back on when you hammered the throttle again. With the Procede when you lift off the gas to shift gears it keeps the esc spooling because it knows you are about to shift.

Problem is when you are in a low gear in traffic.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[TM]

Yeah, that's what thought you meant when you said it was prespooling. I just misunderstood the last sentence.

So it seems like the prespooling helps when you're actually shifting, but it doesn't know when you're actually about to shift or just letting go of the throttle to decelerate.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Sojhinn]

Originally Posted by TM

Yeah, that's what thought you meant when you said it was prespooling. I just misunderstood the last sentence.

So it seems like the prespooling helps when you're actually shifting, but it doesn't know when you're actually about to shift or just letting go of the throttle to decelerate.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

And I think when most of us are having issues is in traffic. I know the two times I did it was when I accelerated to avoid being rear ended and then stopped quickly to not read end someone else. It would be a quick and easy fix for anyone to log into the Procede software to fix though. So let me know if anyone wants to try.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[TM]

Originally Posted by Sojhinn

If this is the issue; There's an easy fix. Shiv had it setup that the esc prespools when shifting gears. We can disable this at lower rpms so that way when you hit the gas and then let off it won't prespool but I'm not sure if we would want to change that for higher rpms.

1 issue though. I don't have my laptop and I'm no where near it for a while (very long while) I can walk someone through it though.
@TM it's not the esc it's the Procede prespoolinf for gear shifts.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

If we disable this at lower rpms, wouldn't the problem still exist at higher rpms? When I was testing the procede map and experienced this, I was always accelerating to near red line then letting off of the throttle.

If you walk me through it, I can try to adjust the map via the software, but I can't be sure when I can test drive the map loaded on my car, though. It's not easy finding street parking these days, and I don't want to lose my spot unless I will be driving for an extended period of time.

[Sojhinn]

@DAEMANO or @WRB5titch can I walk you guys through it? It will take a few minutes.

We need to modify one row.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk