Twins vs S15 Spec R - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

B3yondL · 09-17-2014, 01:55 PM

Now that they're finally legal in Canada, I'm itching to import one.

250 bhp
203ftlb of torque
2734lb kerb weight
RWD

It's basically a more powerful and lighter S2K with the practicality of a twin being a coupe

murdoc · 09-17-2014, 02:04 PM

I don't think an s15 is a more powerful and lighter s2k

If anything it's a more powerful and stiffer s14.

PhoKingCool · 09-17-2014, 04:06 PM

I love S15s but hate that they are only RHD! Same thing with the Skylines R34/33/32s.

cdrazic93 · 09-17-2014, 04:20 PM

Goodluck getting an S15 spec R for less than a used S2K or a twin.

pom · 09-17-2014, 07:14 PM

get a S15, it's so exclusive in canada

Weasel Soup · 09-17-2014, 09:05 PM

DO IT! Then give us a detailed comparison! please

Sideways&Smiling · 09-18-2014, 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B3yondL

Now that they're finally legal in Canada, I'm itching to import one.

250 bhp
203ftlb of torque
2734lb kerb weight
RWD

It's basically a more powerful and lighter S2K with the practicality of a twin being a coupe

I own an S14 and an S2K. The S13/S14/S15 are not really like an S2K at all other than having similar weight and being FR. The S2K is slightly heavier, much stiffer, has much more sophisticated suspension (double wishbones) & a shorter wheelbase, and the engine is placed further back (front-mid engine). The S2K is more agile, with more crisp/tight turn-in, faster to change directions... but also easier to spin.

That being said, they are still all great. The FR-S is like a stiffer, more refined (due to being more modern), longer wheelbase NA S15.

I'd love to own an S15, but the S14 is much more cost effective in the U.S....

industrial · 09-18-2014, 07:58 AM

Basically you are taking your money and setting it on fire. That car will be expensive and difficult to maintain and have no resale value. Small price to pay for some props at car meets?

BobDigi5060 · 09-19-2014, 02:26 PM

I'll take the new car and platform anyday of the week!

fatoni · 09-22-2014, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B3yondL

Now that they're finally legal in Canada, I'm itching to import one.

250 bhp
203ftlb of torque
2734lb kerb weight
RWD

It's basically a more powerful and lighter S2K with the practicality of a twin being a coupe

how do you get to this conclusion?

B3yondL · 09-26-2014, 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fatoni

how do you get to this conclusion?

Well um, I dunno. Maybe because it has more power, is lighter and is a coupe is how I came to that conclusion?

abraxis · 09-27-2014, 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B3yondL

Well um, I dunno. Maybe because it has more power, is lighter and is a coupe is how I came to that conclusion?

So what your saying is the S15 is a more powerful, larger and heavier Miata with the benefit of being a coupe. Or a lighter, more powerful Impreza with fewer doors and no AWD. All cleared up now.

B3yondL · 09-27-2014, 08:38 PM

You know what, bad wording by me. I shouldn't have said the S15 IS A x and y S2K. Let's just take the S2K out of the question since it is Twins Vs. forum anyway.

Let me rephrase it to this; the S15 Spec R has more torque/hp while simultaneously being lighter than the twins. That's pretty amazing and props to Nissan engineering. That being said, I think these two cars would be interesting to compare, since my fantasy is an FRS with stock 200whp.

Obja · 09-27-2014, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by industrial

Basically you are taking your money and setting it on fire. That car will be expensive and difficult to maintain and have no resale value. Small price to pay for some props at car meets?

^ this

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murdoc Sometimes I'm wrong. Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: '13 FR-S/'96 240SX Location: Frederick, MD Posts: 366 Thanks: 91 Thanked 316 Times in 152 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I don't think an s15 is a more powerful and lighter s2k If anything it's a more powerful and stiffer s14.

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B3yondL Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Drives: s2k Location: nyc Posts: 50 Thanks: 2 Thanked 14 Times in 11 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	You know what, bad wording by me. I shouldn't have said the S15 IS A x and y S2K. Let's just take the S2K out of the question since it is Twins Vs. forum anyway. Let me rephrase it to this; the S15 Spec R has more torque/hp while simultaneously being lighter than the twins. That's pretty amazing and props to Nissan engineering. That being said, I think these two cars would be interesting to compare, since my fantasy is an FRS with stock 200whp.

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