Frs vs s2000

[FreshFRS]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

You just needed an aftermarket seat rail

tried that. i have broad shoulders and had aftermarket seats could never really get comfortable. tried a few different seats and had MUGEN ultra low seat rails which at the time were the lowest you could get. keep in mind 6'5 with longer legs than average, just doesn't fit right haha

Stock for stock IMHO the S2k will murder the FRS. that being said the FRS's inherent predictability makes learning to push the new cars limits that much easier for the average driver. and for the very experienced guys allows them to push those limits very quickly allowing for someone to know what they need to modify. my first 4 mods will be:

1) Tien SRC Coilovers with Swift Springs. 10k/12k -1.4"/-1.2"
2) GFB pulley set + Lightweight flywheel (ACT Pro-lite) SS clutch line.
3) Essex "Sprint" front BBK and good street/track pads in the rear (or BBK if AP makes a sprint rear) 286x28 would be sick. (HINT HINT) with stainless brake lines.
4) 18"x8 +40 front, +30 rear Forged1 7Mesh wheels (~17.5lbs) and 245/35 Continental DW (lightweight ~5lbs less than 225/40 dunlop ZII , reasonable traction) will move to something better later on.

From there i will will decide if the car needs more power to compete or not. i'll benchmark porsche cayman times.

[CSG Mike]

Ah, okay. 6'5" is REALLY pushing it

Only way I can see you getting comfortable is with a Bride super low down rail and a gutted door... which is ridiculous imo.

[aehachiroku]

I don't own either but here's my input

As much as I love S2000s, the mature side of me would go for FR-S/BRZ.

As stated before you have a peace of mind with the warranty and in case anything goes wrong. Although the rear seats may not be of much use, it's still there so you might as well use it for extra cargo space. With the S2k you don't have that luxury. The S2ks are also extremely overpriced. A good buddy of mine was selling his for $11k that had 66k miles (2001). I look at anything similar, they either have high miles or they're extremely overpriced.

Also the thing I hated about the S2k and that steered me away from getting one was that the hardtop rips so easily. It's just annoying and not pretty to look at. But other than that I love the S2ks but right now I would buy an FR-S just because it's a much newer car and everything that comes with it

[Khánh]

Originally Posted by aehachiroku

I don't own either but here's my input

As much as I love S2000s, the mature side of me would go for FR-S/BRZ.

As stated before you have a peace of mind with the warranty and in case anything goes wrong. Although the rear seats may not be of much use, it's still there so you might as well use it for extra cargo space. With the S2k you don't have that luxury. The S2ks are also extremely overpriced. A good buddy of mine was selling his for $11k that had 66k miles (2001). I look at anything similar, they either have high miles or they're extremely overpriced.

Also the thing I hated about the S2k and that steered me away from getting one was that the hardtop rips so easily. It's just annoying and not pretty to look at. But other than that I love the S2ks but right now I would buy an FR-S just because it's a much newer car and everything that comes with it

i don't own one but i question this haha


for those who owned s2k, what do ap1 and ap2 dyno stock anyway?

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Does not compute... unless he has a F20C3... and a 2.5L stroker was put in all 02+

My 06 had a 1.4L since they kept getting smaller I guess. It was a F20C-F.6C8. It used an allison transmission out of a dodge truck.

You guys need to learn S2000s.

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by aehachiroku

Also the thing I hated about the S2k and that steered me away from getting one was that the hardtop rips so easily. It's just annoying and not pretty to look at. But other than that I love the S2ks but right now I would buy an FR-S just because it's a much newer car and everything that comes with it

I assume you mean the soft top rips easily?

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by Khánh

i don't own one but i question this haha


for those who owned s2k, what do ap1 and ap2 dyno stock anyway?

I never dyno'd mine but IIRC around low 200whp. It's been several years since I cared enough to think about that though. Mike and the other current owners will probably have a better answer.

[aehachiroku]

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

I assume you mean the soft top rips easily?

yeah i meant soft top

[FreshFRS]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Ah, okay. 6'5" is REALLY pushing it

Only way I can see you getting comfortable is with a Bride super low down rail and a gutted door... which is ridiculous imo.

yeah it just wasn't happening imo

Originally Posted by Khánh

i don't own one but i question this haha


for those who owned s2k, what do ap1 and ap2 dyno stock anyway?

my baseline was 203whp (my 2001) by the time i was done with my turbo i was at 588

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

My 06 had a 1.4L since they kept getting smaller I guess. It was a F20C-F.6C8. It used an allison transmission out of a dodge truck.

You guys need to learn S2000s.

[CSG Mike]

Dyno all depends on the dyno itself... but mine reads about 260 flywheel.

[Canyoncarver]

Originally Posted by Khánh

i don't own one but i question this haha


for those who owned s2k, what do ap1 and ap2 dyno stock anyway?

Stock ap1 or 2: 240hp

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by Canyoncarver

Stock ap1 or 2: 240hp

That's not what they dyno at (as in a chassis dyno).

[Khánh]

haha he tried to help ..

[Canyoncarver]

I own a gpw 04 s2k ..Im still debating to get an 06+gpw cr or new frs/brz..my s2k is n ot flashpro comp. Becuz its mechanical throttle