Verus Engineering Brake Cooling Kit

[solidONE]

Great job, Velox! love you guy's work.

[cdrazic93]

You have too much fun Eric lol

[djdnz]

Although this is definitely the most tempting ducting solution available for me - I almost bought it on a whim yesterday, going through the instructions I'm a little disappointed at the amount of things that are not polished, a few suggestions:

Mesh/gutter guard should be included - kinda sucks to have to go to the hardware store and fab it up when you're buying a kit.
The ends of the ducting hoses could come pre-taped - minor but nice to have.
Cutting templates for the fender liners would be useful.
Washer bottle situation - at the very least, confirm that an alternative washer fluid reservoir fits like the FBM or KW option.

Another quick question, can you see the orange ducting behind the wheels/brakes? Is there a way to get the black version instead?

[boredom.is.me]

You want them to install it for you too? Do you see the petty crap you are complaining about? If that is what's stopping you, then you probably should just stick to wheels and exhaust.

Edit:


It's also not a company's responsibilty to check for compatibilty with parts that 1) are from another company, and 2) are so niche.

[ATL BRZ]

I thought I was picky...

Originally Posted by djdnz

Although this is definitely the most tempting ducting solution available for me - I almost bought it on a whim yesterday, going through the instructions I'm a little disappointed at the amount of things that are not polished, a few suggestions:

Mesh/gutter guard should be included - kinda sucks to have to go to the hardware store and fab it up when you're buying a kit.

You can get dive mesh from any dive shop or fabric store in large sheets for super cheap.

Originally Posted by djdnz

The ends of the ducting hoses could come pre-taped - minor but nice to have.

The tape is one of those things that you have to get it perfect to make it work. I personally did not tape mine as I tried it once and it just make the hoses more difficult to fit. As long as you clamp down the string/wire ends it will not fray and come apart. No big deal.

Originally Posted by djdnz

Cutting templates for the fender liners would be useful.

The cuts you're supposed to make to the fender liners are super obvious and follow shapes that essentially act as a template. I had no issue with an x-acto knife and some patience.

Originally Posted by djdnz

Washer bottle situation - at the very least, confirm that an alternative washer fluid reservoir fits like the FBM or KW option.

Windex or invisible glass and a microfiber work great and deleting that enormous F350 sized wiper fluid tank will take like 7 lbs off the nose of the car.

That said, I'm pretty sure the Ptuning washer bottle kit will fit fine.

Originally Posted by djdnz

Another quick question, can you see the orange ducting behind the wheels/brakes? Is there a way to get the black version instead?

The orange hoses are not visible at all, you'd have to be up close and looking for them to see them. They are orange because they are rated for high temps. The black hoses are not rated for temps as high as the orange, so theyre only used for the forward pieces of hoses.

You should get back to that whim you were on yesterday. You won't regret it.

[djdnz]

Originally Posted by ATL BRZ

I thought I was picky...

Yes, it's a product of what I do for a living

You can get dive mesh from any dive shop or fabric store in large sheets for super cheap.

I bet I could probably piece most of this kit together from a store, but I'd rather not invest the time - thats why I'm okay paying for more than the sum of the parts when paying for Velox's R&D

The cuts you're supposed to make to the fender liners are super obvious and follow shapes that essentially act as a template. I had no issue with an x-acto knife and some patience.

It's just a nice to have, not a deal breaker. I have to pay for shop time now that I live in an apartment... wah wah wah I'm a whiner I know.

Windex or invisible glass and a microfiber work great and deleting that enormous F350 sized wiper fluid tank will take like 7 lbs off the nose of the car.

Because race-car lol

The orange hoses are not visible at all, you'd have to be up close and looking for them to see them. They are orange because they are rated for high temps. The black hoses are not rated for temps as high as the orange, so theyre only used for the forward pieces of hoses.

Good to know, thanks.

You should get back to that whim you were on yesterday. You won't regret it.

I'm still considering it, I'm installing my stoptech bbk in two weeks and figure it's worth doing at the same time. I just can't live without the windshield washer reservoir so I need to figure that one out first.

[boredom.is.me]

Why do you have to pay for shop time? You don't have a friend with jack stands and a driveway?

[Ashikabi]

Originally Posted by churchx

@VeloxEric: have you considered of making alternative set, with duct intakes behind rad grill instead of using foglight intakes for those, that don't wish to sacrifice fog lights of top trim to replace them with brake air duct? I'm thinking of something like in this kit. I guess, only similar intakes + maybe different length front hoses will be needed to customize existing kit?

I second this. Fog light inserts are a deal breaker for me. I was going to get the Touge Factory kit but if you guys figure it out before I'm ready to buy, then I'll get yours

edit: I would like to amend my above statement. The knuckle piece stand alone seems to be intended for this purpose. Ducts stuff from Summit looks to be about 150$. They offer inlet cones(or whatever you want to call them) in a couple variations. Between the velox plates, Summit, and your local home depot you could easily duplicate the Touge Factory kit for a similar price. Of course you could just buy the TF kit but the Velox backing plates look better and I suppose brand loyalty could come into play. On a side note, I didn't realize Summit had so much random stuff, will definitely be checking there more often for random stuff

[churchx]

Ashikabi: i googled for 'brake air duct universal' and got several shops selling different shape bumper/body/NACA ducts (including transparent ones) for cheap ($15-$25). +Earlier in this thread was mentioned shop for extra length front hoses for $50. That imho should be sufficient for not much more to DIY extend existing Velox set.
Of course it would be better if there would be third Velox set without foglight connectors/leading hose for cheaper to not pay for redundant/unused parts and use those savings for custom hose/ducts purchase, but it's upto Velox to decide if it's worth to release such set.
What i'd really love though, would be, even if it takes for Velox reusing of such 3rd party parts/ducts to make set (to save time/money on developing/making those behind grill duct inlets too) .. set which also would be pretested/documented to install and so on, to not get any gotchas in install or need to order something above (for example, if ordered extra hoses will be too short ).

[Takumi788]

If you are having issues keeping your brakes cool, or value brake endurance, this is the kit to have. If you value the washer bottle more than efficient brake cooling, you don't really need this kit in the first place.

[VerusEric]

For those with the washer fluid reservoir concern:

-There are two units on the market that can be purchased already. If you'd like another option, I can have blow injection molded piece designed up and we can see where we land price wise. Including this in the kit would have easily increased the cost 75-100 dollars, so before saying it's a deal breaker, consider the added cost for all the other people that could care less about it. We can't please everyone.

-You can run the backing plates only and create your own routing that would allow the OEM washer fluid reservoir to be used. We created the backing plate kit so those that want to do their own deal, can.

Fog light duct concern:

-I'm slightly surprised about this as I didn't realize many people actually used them on this car. However, we did account for this again by offering the backing plate only kit, which again was a forethought that some people would want to build their own kit because they don't like something about what we did completely. This is the route I would suggest for now, as we do not currently plan to create yet another kit. The tooling required to make the plastic pieces and the carbon duct was significant and we're still trying to recoup our costs.

Hope this helps some.

Thanks,
Eric

[Takumi788]

Originally Posted by VeloxEric

Fog light duct concern:

-I'm slightly surprised about this as I didn't realize many people actually used them on this car.

Weather in the North East sucks. This was my April 26th track day at Watkins. We went out for our first run, great conditions, 3 laps in, see picture below. This is why I am routing my brake ducts to the front grill and keeping my fogs. I love the kit though. I think half the fun of installing kits like these are finding ways to make them work better for your own specific application.

[wparsons]

Originally Posted by Takumi788

If you are having issues keeping your brakes cool, or value brake endurance, this is the kit to have. If you value the washer bottle more than efficient brake cooling, you don't really need this kit in the first place.

That's not entirely true at all. Some people truly daily drive and track the same car. Having to swap in a washer fluid bottle for winter and back out to connect the brake duct is a deal breaker for me.

Running an aftermarket bottle is definitely a viable option, and I wouldn't expect Velox to include it in every kit.

[churchx]

Extra weight comes more so from extra washing fluid, not so much from bigger plastic bottle itself. Simpler/cheaper lightening mod seems to sprinkle out excess fluid prior track or not fill completely. Knowing that there is extra washing fluid usage due them washing also front lights, and remembering slight annoyance of 3lr reservoir in previous car, but 4lr most common refilling can size at local fuel stations, makes me think, that 4lr capacity of stock bottle makes sense.
BUT! As i plan to DIY reroute intakes behind rad grill anyway, at same time i can think of routing in a way to not require stock washing fluid bottle replacement