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Old 02-15-2014, 11:47 PM   #29
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Full load you must apply to your engine if strength and longevity you wish to have. Max RPM from the start, in full retard mode, is the darkness of the ring-sealing force.
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Old 02-15-2014, 11:50 PM   #30
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hahah Seriously though. WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU SUCK A FUCKING DOUCHE BAG ON THIS FORUM?!? Every thread you post in has some smart ass comment to someone else. Just shut the fuck up and if you don't have anything nice to say don't fucking say it.

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Old 02-15-2014, 11:54 PM   #31
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I never would have imagined someone could confuse the two.
If you want max force, which is wanted to force the piston rings would you not want full hp/tq which would cause greater pressure in the cylinder.

I feel this argument is just going to break down just like this reddit post and say sorry.
http://www.reddit.com/r/cars/comment...ferent/c84f34m
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Old 02-15-2014, 11:59 PM   #32
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LOL at the still-alive "Italian tuning methods" of red-lining from the start.
FWIW, high performance Italian engines all spend some time on a test stand at redline before being installed.

For example, here's what Maserati does:
http://www.maseratiamerica.com/maser...7_Passion.aspx

Ferrari and Lambo do the same.
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lol none of you really answer my question.

i know about the general break-in.
Read the manual if you want the straight answer from OEM
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FWIW, high performance Italian engines all spend time on a test stand at redline before being installed.

For example, here's what Maserati does:
http://www.maseratiamerica.com/maser...7_Passion.aspx

Ferrari and Lambo do the same.
Because who is gonna pick up a Ferrari/Lambo/Maserati and keep it under 4-5kRPM for the first 1k miles...
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FWIW, high performance Italian engines all spend some time on a test stand at redline before being installed.

For example, here's what Maserati does:
http://www.maseratiamerica.com/maser...7_Passion.aspx

Ferrari and Lambo do the same.
Does a Camry engine count?
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How did I get sucked into this? This is way off topic.
.....maybe ..... cause it's a slow day down in Kennesaw .... ?? .....

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All I can say is if there's visible crap in the oil at 20 miles, someone forgot to install the oil filter.


Some manufacturers advise against an early oil change when using full synthetics. The initial fill is considered necessary or at least optimal for break-in.


And you will NOT wear out your clutch using the engine to brake (unless you downshift at unusually high RPMs many times or ride the clutch while doing so) and going down the hill using engine-breaking is good for helping to seat the rings. Just do it at normal RPMs.


Common sense says a little of everything done in moderation. Even hitting the redline (as long as the oil is up to temperature) a few times during the first 1000 miles won't hurt and may actually help.


And remember, there's millions of cars and trucks out there today with 150K original miles on them or more. Believe me when I say that probably 95% of their owners never paid any attention to break in or even knew that there was such a thing to worry about. Most of them never even looked at the owner's manual.
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