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Old 11-05-2013, 06:02 PM   #29
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Is the 3" still made to order or do you have it on the shelf?
I'm going to assume you are asking about the 3" catback, if that is that case, then I've got them on the shelf and ready to go.
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Old 11-06-2013, 06:04 AM   #30
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As I mentioned, there is virtually no difference. 5whp is not noticeable in any way, I understand you have to advertise this as they are gains, but you can't advertise this (not saying that you are/you did) as any significant gains (on an un-tuned car).

However, as I've mentioned all along, the standard trio of intake, exhaust and tune proves to be the winner here (like always). The 3" exhaust components with a 3" intake and tune are the only way you'll see a difference. 30whp is a nice increase, there's no doubt.

A few other thoughts:
-I find the 3" is a smoother sounding exhaust (despite having slightly louder overall volume). This would be my choice just for that aspect.
-3" is a great option to leave you open for further mods down the road (FI)

Ultimately, trying to squeeze out 2-3whp here and there on a budget is completely useless. You gotta pay to play. $3100 for 30whp on these cars in N/A format, ouch. But, I think this 3" option is the way to go because FI will be the only way to make any noticeable power, and FI will require a 3" setup (especially turbo).

Using a 2.5" versus 3" on a turbo system, big difference (especially with a test pipe). I gained 38whp/28wtq on my car going from the OEM 2.25" to 3" exhaust (not an FA20).

Overall, very nice results on the stage 3.
5 WHP is a big difference IMO. 1-2 isnt, but 5 whp is enough of a difference to make someone choose this exhaust over the 2.5 inch system. It may not be a lot or enough to feel the difference but a couple whp here and there on mods will add up and you will feel the difference after you get a whole set up together. Its a no brainer to get the 3 inch system after Perrins recently blog posts. If you dont like the sound of the 3 inch then get the 2.5 inch.
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Old 11-06-2013, 08:38 AM   #31
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Can I send my 2.5 back and get some credit for 3.0?
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Old 11-06-2013, 11:24 AM   #32
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5 WHP is a big difference IMO. 1-2 isnt, but 5 whp is enough of a difference to make someone choose this exhaust over the 2.5 inch system. It may not be a lot or enough to feel the difference but a couple whp here and there on mods will add up and you will feel the difference after you get a whole set up together. Its a no brainer to get the 3 inch system after Perrins recently blog posts. If you dont like the sound of the 3 inch then get the 2.5 inch.
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You wouldn't feel 5whp whatsoever. It would barely make a difference in the performance of your car....by itself.

As you said, multiple mods adding 3-5whp here and there, definitely makes a difference.

I personally would get the 3" because it sounds better IMO
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Old 11-06-2013, 06:15 PM   #33
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Can I send my 2.5 back and get some credit for 3.0?
Same boat... I ordered the 3 inch front pipe, and will be switching out the 2.5 inch catback down the road... is there any sort of trade in possibly? Anything we can do other than post it in the classifieds to sell it... then order the 3.0? Maybe people that ordered the 2.5 inch directly from Perrin's website can get some special coupon code to use when they purchase the 3.0 from Perrin's website?
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Old 11-06-2013, 07:45 PM   #34
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Same boat... I ordered the 3 inch front pipe, and will be switching out the 2.5 inch catback down the road... is there any sort of trade in possibly? Anything we can do other than post it in the classifieds to sell it... then order the 3.0? Maybe people that ordered the 2.5 inch directly from Perrin's website can get some special coupon code to use when they purchase the 3.0 from Perrin's website?

I'm sorry, but I do not think that trading in the exhaust will be a possible thing .

However, I will help you out when you do decide order the 3" exhaust from us. Just shoot me a PM and I will see what I can do for you guys.
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Old 11-06-2013, 09:21 PM   #35
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I have the 3" (turbo'ed car) and it's by far the best sounding 4 cyl exhaust I've ever heard. It's really pretty amazing. Very mature sound. And my god when that turbo spools up, it's incredible. Still pretty quiet, but just a beautiful noise. No farts or droning whatsoever either. I couldn't be happier with it.
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Old 11-06-2013, 09:36 PM   #36
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Since we've installed both 3" res and non-res systems here (great product btw Perrin!) we made a video to have you guys hear the difference. Both cars are stock header/overpipe/front pipe.

[ame]http://youtu.be/pwhCWSwi4mo[/ame]
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Would going the resonated catback with a catted header and resonated front pipe be over kill.? Would it be better to have a resonater in the front pipe or cat back?
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Old 11-07-2013, 11:49 AM   #38
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Love the sound of the Perrin 3 inch resonated C/B

Going to order one soon, RallySportDirect still had a 3 inch front pipe in stock from Perrin so I ordered that today, wanted to get one before they were all gone
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dont mean to thread jack but.. i just installed my perrin catback and it sounds
awesome. but...... how can i adjust it to make it even. my driver side sticks out
more than my passenger side.
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My drivers side sticks out about .5-.75" more as well. I'm ignoring it at the moment.
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Yea my driver side is out more than passenger side , how to make it even?

Alright, I see that @BRZtoni made a new thread about this and got an answer from @PERRIN_Mladen, but I wanted to make sure that @KSpider and @speedyracer got the answer, too!

Loosen the two v-bands on the S pipe, the connection to the mid pipe, and the connection to the muffler.

Then twist the S pipe to move the muffler to the desired location, then re-tighten the V bands, and you are done!

Hope that helps!
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Since we've installed both 3" res and non-res systems here (great product btw Perrin!) we made a video to have you guys hear the difference. Both cars are stock header/overpipe/front pipe.

They finally let me post.. my very first post by the way.

Ok, I like the sound of the white car. This white one has Perrin 3" cat-back resonated with everything esle stock?

Who has the best deal and how much shipped to 95630? Since I am new I am not sure if they allow me to receive PMs. If not, please email to typer1407@sbcglobal.net.

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They finally let me post.. my very first post by the way.

Ok, I like the sound of the white car. This white one has Perrin 3" cat-back resonated with everything esle stock?

Who has the best deal and how much shipped to 95630? Since I am new I am not sure if they allow me to receive PMs. If not, please email to typer1407@sbcglobal.net.

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Sending you a PM and email right now
Thank you! Got your PM and email.

Need to do more Youtube search on this system for more sound samples.

Would you say that the non-resonated is more "raspy" than the resonated setup?
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