Interesting snippet from Car And Driver Mag - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Phantobe · 12-07-2013, 09:21 AM

What are your thoughts on this article.

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Suberman · 12-07-2013, 09:27 AM

Subaru needs to fix the chassis so it handles properly. Otherwise, it will soon sell out to those of us willing to put up with the squirming under power. The market for fans of early 911 style handling gets saturated pretty quickly. I'm already getting bored with the juvenile handling of my BRZ.

whaap · 12-07-2013, 09:44 AM

I saw that when I got my C & D in the mail. As far as I'm concerned they're drinking too much Kool-Aid.

Alain · 12-07-2013, 09:44 AM

Im sorry i couldnt pass that first word. What???

utekineir · 12-07-2013, 09:55 AM

Praised last year for being a throwbackish stripped down drivers car.

Knocked this year for being a throwbackish stripped down drivers car.

Reasonable inference, next gen frz will be heavier and have more features.

Tromatic · 12-07-2013, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suberman

Subaru needs to fix the chassis so it handles properly. Otherwise, it will soon sell out to those of us willing to put up with the squirming under power. The market for fans of early 911 style handling gets saturated pretty quickly. I'm already getting bored with the juvenile handling of my BRZ.

Sucks to be you!

ZionsWrath · 12-07-2013, 10:37 AM

Sounds like they picked some big names to knock to stir up shit which will end up getting them some increased traffic on their website.

meh

dem00n · 12-07-2013, 11:03 AM

Mag world is dying, can you blame them?

Car And Driver never really cared for cars that were under $50K anyways...

SUB-FT86 · 12-07-2013, 11:23 AM

I seen this coming before everyone here. They go nuts for a sports car/car the first year then show there true colors by year 2 or 3. The 370Z was a perfect example as it won a lot of mag battles and then they later bitched about it being 200~300 lbs too heavy feeling.

headlikeahole · 12-07-2013, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suberman

Subaru needs to fix the chassis so it handles properly. Otherwise, it will soon sell out to those of us willing to put up with the squirming under power. The market for fans of early 911 style handling gets saturated pretty quickly. I'm already getting bored with the juvenile handling of my BRZ.

This is officially the most ridiculous comment I have ever read about the twin. Please sell your car immediately.

Rayme · 12-07-2013, 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suberman

Subaru needs to fix the chassis so it handles properly. Otherwise, it will soon sell out to those of us willing to put up with the squirming under power. The market for fans of early 911 style handling gets saturated pretty quickly. I'm already getting bored with the juvenile handling of my BRZ.

Otherwise nothing will happen. Most buyers would not even know what your talking about in the first place. It's the same car as when you bought it never changed, you can get bored of a lot of thing. The suspension setup makes it the funnest car to drive in everyday driving, sliding out is fun and extremely easy to correct. If you want to drive it like a race car, mod accordingly.

NWFRS · 12-07-2013, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suberman

Subaru needs to fix the chassis so it handles properly. Otherwise, it will soon sell out to those of us willing to put up with the squirming under power. The market for fans of early 911 style handling gets saturated pretty quickly. I'm already getting bored with the juvenile handling of my BRZ.

Can you fit wider wheels and grippier tires to stay happy? I'd have said that nothing handled as good as a Miata for the money until now.

White64Goat · 12-07-2013, 12:48 PM

That's why I subscribe to Hot Rod, don't have to read articles from tea drinking, scone eating, pinky finger up db's..................

utekineir · 12-07-2013, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NWFRS

Can you fit wider wheels and grippier tires to stay happy? I'd have said that nothing handled as good as a Miata for the money until now.

Please don't get that guy started on tires in this thread too.

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Suberman Banned Join Date: Jul 2013 Drives: Subaru BRZ Sport Tech Satin White Location: Calgary, Alberta,Canada Posts: 1,228 Thanks: 147 Thanked 320 Times in 225 Posts Mentioned: 10 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Subaru needs to fix the chassis so it handles properly. Otherwise, it will soon sell out to those of us willing to put up with the squirming under power. The market for fans of early 911 style handling gets saturated pretty quickly. I'm already getting bored with the juvenile handling of my BRZ.

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utekineir blowhard Join Date: Jun 2013 Drives: frs, project forester Location: ma Posts: 980 Thanks: 53 Thanked 604 Times in 316 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Praised last year for being a throwbackish stripped down drivers car. Knocked this year for being a throwbackish stripped down drivers car. Reasonable inference, next gen frz will be heavier and have more features.

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