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Old 06-07-2012, 01:43 PM   #1
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Cool feature of the daytime running lights!

While the car is on the DLR will be on naturally, but if you are stopped with the parking brake pulled up, they will fade to off. Once you release and start going again, they will fade back to normal! I noticed it this afternoon while stopped at an intersection behind someone with a shiny bumper, thought it was kind of cool, especially how they fade in/out instead of just a hard on/off.

I have the nagging habit of stopping in neutral and pulling the parking brake if I know I'm going to be stopped for more than about 5-10 seconds.
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Old 06-07-2012, 01:45 PM   #2
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Interesting little fact! Thanks Erik! Just don't pull the e-brake too hard, you'll just strech out the cable.
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I try not to but I feel like this one isn't cable driven for how 'light' it feels. I feel like there is no mechanical resistance at all behind it (unlike the one that I am used to on the Si). Is it possible for it to be completely electronic?

Sometimes I'm still rolling back a little and pull up a bit more.. and more.. until I don't. Somewhat worries me at times, especially on the steeper grades.
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How long does it take for them to fade off? I'm thinking of a little fade action during hand-brake turns.
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I never use the parking brake in any of my cars. Old habit from tracking Hondas because they use the caliper to engage the e-brake, not sure if this car is the same or not. When you do have a caliper vs drum style e-brake and you use it after the brakes are well heated, wherever the pad is engaging the rotor it will cool at a different rate then the exposed rotor portion. When this happens it will warp your brake rotor. Easy enough just to park in gear all the time.
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How long does it take for them to fade off? I'm thinking of a little fade action during hand-brake turns.
I would say maybe a second? It's not slow.. but not very very fast. It may not be a fade as much as how the bulbs dim when power is cut to them, though that DLR resistor is pretty big!
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I try not to but I feel like this one isn't cable driven for how 'light' it feels. I feel like there is no mechanical resistance at all behind it (unlike the one that I am used to on the Si). Is it possible for it to be completely electronic?

Sometimes I'm still rolling back a little and pull up a bit more.. and more.. until I don't. Somewhat worries me at times, especially on the steeper grades.
The Prius and many Lexus models have an electronic e-brake. I highly doubt this car does though. It could just be the newness. Would be pretty hard to use the e-brake for drifting, etc. if it was servo actuated.
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While the car is on the DLR will be on naturally, but if you are stopped with the parking brake pulled up, they will fade to off. Once you release and start going again, they will fade back to normal! I noticed it this afternoon while stopped at an intersection behind someone with a shiny bumper, thought it was kind of cool, especially how they fade in/out instead of just a hard on/off.

I have the nagging habit of stopping in neutral and pulling the parking brake if I know I'm going to be stopped for more than about 5-10 seconds.

I like this feature! I think this one might have been something borrowed from Subaru... the light fading seems to behave exactly like my '11 WRX and '11 STi.
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I like this feature! I think this one might have been something borrowed from Subaru... the light fading seems to behave exactly like my '11 WRX and '11 STi.
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My 06 Fozzy does that, minus the fading, just turns on and off, if you pull up the e-brake.
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Old 06-07-2012, 02:20 PM   #10
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So its like volkswagen's DRLs?
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I never use the parking brake in any of my cars. Old habit from tracking Hondas because they use the caliper to engage the e-brake, not sure if this car is the same or not. When you do have a caliper vs drum style e-brake and you use it after the brakes are well heated, wherever the pad is engaging the rotor it will cool at a different rate then the exposed rotor portion. When this happens it will warp your brake rotor. Easy enough just to park in gear all the time.
Brakes are much, much cheaper than syncros, gears and a trans rebuild.

Does anyone know mechanically what the parking brake engages on this car?
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E-brake is good old fashioned cable operated and uses a shoe inside rotor style system so no warped rotors after a track day.
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Brakes are much, much cheaper than syncros, gears and a trans rebuild.

Does anyone know mechanically what the parking brake engages on this car?
There is absolutely nothing wrong with parking a manual transmission vehicle in gear. This is a very normal thing to do with a race car (due to not even having an e-brake) or a street car.
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There is absolutely nothing wrong with parking a manual transmission vehicle in gear. This is a very normal thing to do with a race car (due to not even having an e-brake) or a street car.
This.

On my street cars I do both, but after an autocross/de and on the race car it just sits in gear.
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