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06-08-2012, 02:51 AM | #16 |
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to me it looks like could make more power if my AFR matched feedbag, i think AFR and timing were modified on the auto in the last 1000 rpms the preserve the engine and transmission, who knows all i got are theories
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I am including that in the 'guts'. Even when locked the two fan like halves on the converter still have to spin in fluid correct?
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From what I understand, yes. The lockup however reduces efficiency loss to the point where it's purely mechanical; loss is no longer resultant from fluid motion. My grasp of automatic transmissions is limited, but made an effort to learn about them some years ago when investigating the 4EAT in my WRX.
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glad i could help you guys out last night!
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The auto is pretty good for it to have such a small variance from the manual. I was tempted to purchase an auto from how good it felt during my test drive, but opted for manual because I like being in total control and miss driving manual.
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Actually -- I hadn't noticed that. The richer AFR is almost definitely killing the power on the AT.
For a fully locking trans, there should be a negligible difference between the MT and AT locked in gear on a dyno. I'm not sure why it's running richer, but that is definitely contributing. Expect closer dynos with the same tune. |
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there are still alot of unknowns still... :/
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Is Cobb planning on doing any tuning for the BRZ?
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By same "tune", although I also mean aftermarket tuning, I really just meant "running the same tune" including the factory values -- I suspect the ECU was reading off of a different set of load cells in the fueling (and maybe timing) map as compared to the MT for whatever reason.
But -- more to the point, I mean that I predict a MT and AT running the same AFR and timing should be closer in the numbers they put down. Was the AFR that rich for all pulls? |
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yes, the AFR almost is a whole difference of 1, thats a lot!
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