GReddy Turbo kit for BRZ / FR-S

[diss7]

Why does this forum even allow this type of business activity to go on, on this forum?

Oh, thats right, because they pay.

I called this out when this SBD first surfaced, and was quickly told to be quiet, and that this is the same kit. Dispite be knowing for a fact this zage company wasn't supplying greddy, they were copying. I'm glad Greddy have finally said something.

[1086]

Originally Posted by Sniper2606

@AVOturboworld

How about that debt?

Greddy still sending you $10 a year?

Focus on paying back your debt first.

You ain't no saint either

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...1&postcount=27

Wow.

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/09/10/j...es-bankruptcy/

[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GReddy"]GReddy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

[1086]

F*** GReedy

[1086]

Originally Posted by Fear

<insert witty remark here>

Derp greddy for life!

For real though like em or hate them thjs is fuqd up

Honestly in this situation SBD is not the culprit. It comes down to Zage in China and Greddy/Trust co. Ltd in Japan.

SBD is purely a distributor/vendor offering a competitive kit to the U.S. market. There is no malevolent (perhaps too strong a word) trickery going on from their end. I am sure SBD anticipated this scenario before distributing the kit to the U.S. market, which makes it seem more fishy that GReddy would have to take a stab at them publicly - like some desperate final stand to have people buy their kit because interest is f*****g them daaaaaily. However, it makes perfect sense that GReddy would say anything when you look at the massive amount of debt hole they are in - again, desperate much.

Pure speculation can lead to extreme and/or exaggerated conclusions ^^^ and it is unfair to point any fingers and make SBD the culprit. It would be nice to hear from each parent company on the matter, if that can even happen, perhaps a statement? Nonetheless, whether Zage's kit is a copy or it is not -at least they are not marking up the shit out of their kit price like GReedy is.

[Boss Paco]

I liked my AFE knocked off GReddy Momentum intake. Even had AFE coupler in the box too. Was it a lesser product? Nope.

It's great that this is aired out. It's no secret who got my money nor that I am very happy with my purchase. In today's global economy, how much do you think is actually produced by the actual company and sold under their name?

I was in the PC industry years ago and from that experience I can confidently state that there is an abundant amount of rebranding worldwide. Meaning: same shit, same factory, different box.

That said, if someone stole my product and sold it for less, I'd kick their ass and sue them. If they were bigger than me, then I'd just sue.

[s2d4]

Originally Posted by 1086

Honestly in this situation SBD is not the culprit. It comes down to Zage in China and Greddy/Trust co. Ltd in Japan.

SBD is purely a distributor/vendor offering a competitive kit to the U.S. market. There is no malevolent (perhaps too strong a word) trickery going on from their end.

They made bogus claims, did you just happen to ignore that?

[h4nh]

[diss7]

Originally Posted by 1086

whether Zage's kit is a copy or it is not -at least they are not marking up the shit out of their kit price like GReedy is.

I bet they're marking it up MORE than Greddy. Chang labour is cheap as fuck.

I used to sell chang and JDM parts 10 years ago. Camber arms for s-chassis was a good example. Landed from Japan they cost be $130-$150, sell for $180 - $220.
Also used to offer a Chang option for cheaper buyers, for $120 - $130. But, they didnt cost be $50 or $60, it was more like $12.

[s2d4]

Originally Posted by diss7

Chang labour is cheap as fuck..

Is that meant to be derogatory towards the Chinese?

[diss7]

Originally Posted by s2d4

Is that meant to be derogatory towards the Chinese?

I wouldnt say its derogatory. Chang is just slang for what Chinese parts are called in NZ.

[1086]

Originally Posted by s2d4

They made bogus claims, did you just happen to ignore that?

I am not intentionally ignoring their claims, I just didn't get to read through all of their responses on their FI page. I suppose I could try to take some time to do that. What bogus claims did they make, in a shortened version?

[clayrush]

When China starts making and selling copy Boeing 747's will you fly on them? No!

[s2d4]

Originally Posted by 1086

I am not intentionally ignoring their claims, I just didn't get to read through all of their responses on their FI page. I suppose I could try to take some time to do that. What bogus claims did they make, in a shortened version?

How were you able to make a conclusion without going through it?
Did you even go through this thread?
The answer to your question had already been listed here.

[mrk1]

Speed by (someone else's) Design

It sure looks to me like SPD is ignorantly believing a line Zage fed them. Its not a stretch to look at the 2 kits and tell there was something shady going on. SPD claims there kit is different because it includes a BOV. Sure in another box there is a BOV, but it is in no way designed into the kit, you have to take it to a welder to have a hole punched in the piping and then the fitting welded on.

SPD you kept preaching about including a tune, drop the sales pitch and face the real issue here.

Even if SPD is only selling the kit and wasn't involved in the "development" they are still responsible. They put there name on the kit. There should be no separation between the actions of Zage and SPD. SPD when you put your name on a product, if you make it or not. You now need to be responsible for what is in that box, you need to answer for it.