Sorry But - Updated OFT Vs Ecutek?

[Breadman]

Steve99 correct me if im wrong but those ecutek features dont exist for the 2017 models yet.

[GeorgeJFrick]

Originally Posted by cjd

This would make sense - I have read that there is a cable you can use to plug in for flashing (rather than relying on bluetooth... and that's a good thing) but it's probably the dongle that's missing. That's probably what most of the cost is in the 'standard' cable+dongle package.

It's too bad, because it would make logging for tune tweaks (which is common when you get an off-the-shelf tune from the good vendors) rather simpler. I don't look forward to the hour+ drive so I can do a few good pulls...

I'm very interested in your solution/cost on this when going for a 17'.

I'm leaning towards Ecutek with remote tune. Nameless suggested I contact Delicious. My fear is driving 2 hours to a tuner in your area; and just having that one tune with no ability to change things myself.

It would be best with a definitive answer here; but it seems there are problems and nobody wants to be the one to say 'if you bought a 17 you better have them ducketts $$$$.

The 2016 I was looking at, the guy wanted more than the great deal I got on the 17'; but if I had considered these difficulties; I'd be in that 16'

I can't support OFT - if Shiv can't do basic website updates; there is no way I can send him more money for a second OFT. (Sold the first with the 13').

Ecutek seems to be the solution; but even then they start stacking choices and confusion; without clarity on a 17' solution! (do the features work or not?!?!).

[Strife26]

I went with EcuTek. I am trying to decide who to get a tune from now. Delicious tuning or HRI tuning.

HRI leaves tunes unlocked so you can at least see them and learn something, or even tweak it if you have the right EcuTek (I don't yet).

And for about the same price Delicious offers a canned tune for specific kits, while HRI offers a custom for that price. Both are great from what I hear, but I like open tunes and custom vs canned. I figured with an electronic boost controller a custom would be better.

[steve99]

Originally Posted by GeorgeJFrick

I'm very interested in your solution/cost on this when going for a 17'.

I'm leaning towards Ecutek with remote tune. Nameless suggested I contact Delicious. My fear is driving 2 hours to a tuner in your area; and just having that one tune with no ability to change things myself.

It would be best with a definitive answer here; but it seems there are problems and nobody wants to be the one to say 'if you bought a 17 you better have them ducketts $$$$.

The 2016 I was looking at, the guy wanted more than the great deal I got on the 17'; but if I had considered these difficulties; I'd be in that 16'

I can't support OFT - if Shiv can't do basic website updates; there is no way I can send him more money for a second OFT. (Sold the first with the 13').

Ecutek seems to be the solution; but even then they start stacking choices and confusion; without clarity on a 17' solution! (do the features work or not?!?!).

The only ecutek tuners I know of that leave tunes unlocked are James at HRI and I believe VitViper tuning but check with them

[steve99]

Originally Posted by Breadman

Steve99 correct me if im wrong but those ecutek features dont exist for the 2017 models yet.

correct, currenty opensource has no patches for 2017 roms ie no launch flat foot shift or flex fuel. this may change though.


The 2017 roms can be tuned but no additional features

[GeorgeJFrick]

Originally Posted by steve99

correct, currenty opensource has no patches for 2017 roms ie no launch flat foot shift or flex fuel. this may change though.


The 2017 roms can be tuned but no additional features

I believe we are asking if these are even available via Ecutek?

[steve99]

Originally Posted by GeorgeJFrick

I believe we are asking if these are even available via Ecutek?

yes ecutek has full suite of feature on 2017 roms launch flat foot shift auto blip flex and more same as was available on earlier roms

[Somerandom18]

Still waiting for LC on the 2017s from OFT.. 😭

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[Code Monkey]

So for those like me who do not need launch, flat foot shift, auto blip, flex fuel, just an old fashioned road racing NA tune, OFT is fine on a '17?

[GeorgeJFrick]

Originally Posted by Code Monkey

So for those like me who do not need launch, flat foot shift, auto blip, flex fuel, just an old fashioned road racing NA tune, OFT is fine on a '17?

I asked this in another thread.

my understanding is - technically yes you can use OFT with a 17'.
You'll have to request the tunes, although he'll preload a new OFT with the 17's for you. It's not clear on the website; but people said their new ones had 17's tunes on them. I don't trust this and you can trigger the security thing if you flash a 16- onto a 17+. Oy.

Beyond that, no; because logging isn't working; so there is no way to know how well the OFT tune is doing. Without this feedback, you are blindly trusting the received rom/tune.

So my decision was that in addition to the above, Shiv isn't exactly being forthcoming with information/status/changes. So I consider OFT to not be compatible with 17+

[steve99]

Originally Posted by GeorgeJFrick

I asked this in another thread.

my understanding is - technically yes you can use OFT with a 17'.
You'll have to request the tunes, although he'll preload a new OFT with the 17's for you. It's not clear on the website; but people said their new ones had 17's tunes on them. I don't trust this and you can trigger the security thing if you flash a 16- onto a 17+. Oy.

Beyond that, no; because logging isn't working; so there is no way to know how well the OFT tune is doing. Without this feedback, you are blindly trusting the received rom/tune.

So my decision was that in addition to the above, Shiv isn't exactly being forthcoming with information/status/changes. So I consider OFT to not be compatible with 17+

ECU hardware in 2012-2017 cars is same. however their are significant changes in the ecu firmware (fueling/timing and secirity in the 2017, means the 2017 roms are not compatible with earlier cars and vice versa.


The OFT hardware is capable of flashing and reading the 2017 cars no problems.


the roms have been defined by oft guys or romraider guys so NA tuning is possible, just no code patches for extra features.


If you contact shiv he will send you 2017 roms and definitions

[Breadman]

Wait it was my understanding that bot oft and ecutek didnit have features from racerom

[steve99]

Originally Posted by Breadman

Wait it was my understanding that bot oft and ecutek didnit have features from racerom

their was a couple of early issues with ecutek 2017 racerom patch but been ok for many months now, was only on USA rom patch not Europe/Australia. Ive done a couple for 2017 guys here and features work fine