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Old 06-20-2018, 03:27 PM   #43
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Philips has a big manufacturing plant in rural China I believe. They have to meet US production standards but I've heard there's little kids working there.
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Old 06-20-2018, 03:50 PM   #44
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my best friends(a couple) has one of those. it really is awesome.
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Explains why the iPhone is a bad argument for "how great Chinese products are". Pretty much nails it how it was brought up in here.
https://www.quora.com/Why-are-Chines...tured-in-China
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In my experience I have recieved shittier parts from usa than from china when ordering knock-offs so in this segment china is far superior. But it is just like Tcoat said. It doesn't matter what country the product is from. It is the standards they are manufactured by that counts. I had a front lip from allmighty technical heaven on earth Germany that was so bad that made chinese product looked like varis. By the way Slash is still playing his chinese gibson guitar even though he is sponsored by gibson. And musicians are A LOT mor anal about their gear then petrolheads.
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Old 06-21-2018, 09:12 AM   #47
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Explains why the iPhone is a bad argument for "how great Chinese products are". Pretty much nails it how it was brought up in here.
https://www.quora.com/Why-are-Chines...tured-in-China
Perfect! Sort of a really long version of what I have been saying. Just replace "i Phone" with rotor, caliper, transmission, struts, ECU, etc and you have our products that may be made there.


To say all products made in China (or any other country really) are crap is like going to the US, eating only McDonalds, and then saying all the restaurants are horrible.
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it won't be higher, this will give companies a reason to make stuff in the USA. That will make us all better off as auto enthusiasts.
Making more vehicles in the US isn't that easy. Some Manufacturers are near capacity with only a little more room to add quantity.

It takes 3-5 years to get a new plant up and running. And thats if they have the money to do so.

As far as parts, you expect part manufacturers to just up and switch where they make parts? That also takes time AND money, if they do that, prices will still increase, at least in the short term.
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If a true trade war commences it will benefit no one. Materials will become more expensive, there will be material shortages, products will become more expensive because many companies will be forced to pass along costs to consumers, cut labor forces, and in some cases, close down. It is also likely that competition (which often leads to innovation) between and among certain companies in various fields will suffer as well.

Does no one in this administration understand history and the lessons it has bestowed upon those who are willing to research or at least listen?
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Toyota may not import some models due to Trump Tariffs and would raise prices on the ones they do: https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/comp...5Vb?li=BBnbfcN
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If a true trade war commences it will benefit no one. Materials will become more expensive, there will be material shortages, products will become more expensive because many companies will be forced to pass along costs to consumers, cut labor forces, and in some cases, close down. It is also likely that competition (which often leads to innovation) between and among certain companies in various fields will suffer as well.

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quit panicking.

lesson has been learned. don't be a bitch and people won't walk all over you. people will treat you however you LET them.
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Yep. I am not saying for one second that there are no issues. I am simply saying that the LARGE companies that just happen to make stuff in China are not the same as the internal Chinese industry.


I could also link hundreds if not thousands of similar stories from the US and Canada. China is not alone in construction scams.
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...icle-1.2109403
Our new biologics plant in China has a BETTER quality record than our one in Germany.

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quit panicking.

lesson has been learned. don't be a bitch and people won't walk all over you. people will treat you however you LET them.
Thanks for the unintelligent response and personal attack. Your post is revealing of your blind ignorance to issues larger than a quote or catch phrase.

And clearly the lesson has NOT been learned...
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Thanks for the unintelligent response and personal attack. Your post is revealing of your blind ignorance to issues larger than a quote or catch phrase.

And clearly the lesson has NOT been learned...
someone's triggered. geeze

edit: personal attack? ok...

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China makes 'crap' products because there is a global demand for 'crap' products. Chinese products can be extremely high quality, it's not their fault people want to buy cheap junk. They are just supplying the demand for junk better than everyone else.
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I'm fine if that means an end to the importing of the BRZ. But only because I already bought mine. Kind of sad that's all it might take to end sales here though.
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