TRD Parts for FR-S / 86 Revealed!

[nate89]

Originally Posted by kvl

thats stupid!, nowadays even the corolla is using 114.3 x 5 and with the ft86 its still running 100x 5? dont make sense! worst of all, that means my current wheels wont fit ft86 >.<

False, the corollas are still 5x100, as are most other Toyotas (at least the lower models) and Scions I believe.

[Kostamojen]

The hubs/brakes the Subaru has in the parts bin for 114.3 x 5 wheels are EXPENSIVE! Only Tribeca's and STI's use that bolt pattern. Completely unnecessary for this car, and there are a crap load of 5x100 wheels out there anyway.

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by kvl

make sense! worst of all, that means my current wheels wont fit ft86 >.<

join the club of course I rock 15s on my cars currently anyways....

[Dillano609]

Originally Posted by Mari0

nothing that a few red spray cans or red film can't fix

FROM:

TO:

(not my car)

That looks pretty legit, but wouldn't part of the tail lights need to be masked off and then sanded down to a certain degree to promote adhesion? I definitely would love to do that, because I'm not diggin the altezzas... Can anyone say "Rice"?

[Kazama]

Hey, in Norway its standard for TTE to deliver ekstra styling and mods from toyota. we cant get some TRD parts to but TTE parts are what toyota norway are pushing as exstras . will it maybe come a TTE modell for the european marked? and TRD/MODELISTA be for japan and the us?

[Dragonitti]

Originally Posted by madfast

WTF? since when are we talking about the tC SC? im talking about a SC kit for the FT using a set up similar to the tundra kit. specifically a SC based off the eaton TVS. such a set up will give you enough boost for a modest performance gain, no lag, and a flat tq curve.

maybe you would never put a SC on a 4 banger but that doesnt mean others shouldnt. you can go the turbo route if you want. but you're going to be the one who deals with heat, fitment, overboosting, spool, boost leaks, or whatever problems that are commonly associated with turbos...

PS: centrifugal SC are crap imo, only rotrex is worthy as a consideration.

Is the Tundra a 4 banger? Like I said, of all the S/C'ers for Imports (mostly 4 bangers), I have yet to see one out perform a properly configured turbo setup on the same car.

Turbo's, especially Dual BB have minimal lag when a competent tuner specs out the engine and setup. Key word here is "Competent". You run a bigger A/R on the turbine, it will effectively move your peak torqe and change up your power band. Tuning the car via the dyno with a tuner who knows what he is doing, can deliver a flat torque curve for you. Like I said though, the turbo has to be Matched to what you are trying to do. Peaky torque curves are fun for the street. Flat broad ones are ideal for the track.

S/C is not more efficient than a properly matched turbine. Not in the Import 4banger world. Proper Wastegate size = No overboosting. Heat is a byproduct of both S/C and turbos, no difference there. Either can suffer from boost leaks...it's called a vaccum leak.

[Dragonitti]

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

It's 5x100.

EPIC FAIL! I'm dealing with the dreaded 5x100 pattern now!!! Blasphamey!

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by Dragonitti

EPIC FAIL! I'm dealing with the dreaded 5x100 pattern now!!! Blasphamey!

I have no idea if you are being sarcastic or not I think so...

[Dragonitti]

Originally Posted by rL-gT

Check the wheels and tires forum. This has been discussed

Centrifugal is Centrifugal. Only S/C I would ever consider would be a Roots Type.

Originally Posted by Kostamojen

The hubs/brakes the Subaru has in the parts bin for 114.3 x 5 wheels are EXPENSIVE! Only Tribeca's and STI's use that bolt pattern. Completely unnecessary for this car, and there are a crap load of 5x100 wheels out there anyway.

Yeah, ones that no one wants

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

I have no idea if you are being sarcastic or not I think so...

No, 5x100 pattern sucks. None of the popular track built wheels (i.e. Volk TE37's) come in a deep offset with a 5x100 bolt pattern. Sure you can get 5x100, but there is no deep dish or concave with them. That pattern sucks nutsacks....

Only wheels that are deep and wide with 5x100 are ROTA's and XXR's. Nothing against those, cause I'm going to get some XXR's for the tC. But I wouldn't mind a set of TE37's on the FT and it not look like a flat face to it.

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by Dragonitti

No, 5x100 pattern sucks. None of the popular track built wheels (i.e. Volk TE37's) come in a deep offset with a 5x100 bolt pattern. Sure you can get 5x100, but there is no deep dish or concave with them. That pattern sucks nutsacks....

Only wheels that are deep and wide with 5x100 are ROTA's and XXR's. Nothing against those, cause I'm going to get some XXR's for the tC. But I wouldn't mind a set of TE37's on the FT and it not look like a flat face to it.

I'd prefer 5x114.3 myself, but my wheels just get covered in brake dust anyways so looks don't matter to me :P

[madfast]

Originally Posted by Dragonitti

Is the Tundra a 4 banger? Like I said, of all the S/C'ers for Imports (mostly 4 bangers), I have yet to see one out perform a properly configured turbo setup on the same car.

define out perform. and at what boost?

the problem is that there are very little SC kits out there that are properly designed. its really that simple. they either use old gen eaton roots blowers, or they dont have an integrated intercooler, or they use a vortech/non-rotrex style centrifugal kit with or without intercooler. ALL of those are NOT up to par with a turbo. i dont think anybody will disagree.

however im talking about the new age of supercharging. either a 6th gen eaton TVS or twin screw design. both offer adiabatic efficiency in the 70% range and some approaching 80%. they can run more boost, more efficiently. AND most modern kits have an integrated water-air intercooler.

so why doesnt anybody make they awesome kits for 4 cyl imports? CULTURE. the "import culture" has always embraced the turbo. maybe because the best imports (gtr, evo, sti, supra, rx7, etc) had factory turbos, maybe because the older gen SC's have a bad rep, etc. but the fact of the matter is, if you look at the domestics, they embrace the SC over the turbo. its part of their culture to slap a blower on. the result? AMAZING kits from lysholm, whipple, magnuson, vortech VTS, roush, edelbrock, kennebell, etc... again, not to say there are no turbo domestics, but if you want FI the common route is SC over turbo. for imports its turbo over SC.

so the bottomline is to not compare a well engineered turbo kit with a crappy second thought SC kit. the FACT remains that a SC will give you a better boost curve given MODEST boost levels. and those levels? they're increasing. it used to be if you go above 10-12 psi or whatever the SC would be so inefficient that you cant boost any more. nowadays? 15-20+ psi is simple and easy with more efficient lobe designs and integrated intercooling.

Originally Posted by Dragonitti

Turbo's, especially Dual BB have minimal lag when a competent tuner specs out the engine and setup. Key word here is "Competent". You run a bigger A/R on the turbine, it will effectively move your peak torqe and change up your power band. Tuning the car via the dyno with a tuner who knows what he is doing, can deliver a flat torque curve for you. Like I said though, the turbo has to be Matched to what you are trying to do. Peaky torque curves are fun for the street. Flat broad ones are ideal for the track.

minimal lag is still lag. you cannot change this fact, lest you run WRC-style ALS on a street car. for some it makes a difference. for others it doesnt. the tq curve of a turbo engine will not be as flat as a SC. again, for some it matters and for some it doesnt.

Originally Posted by Dragonitti

S/C is not more efficient than a properly matched turbine.

it may not be more efficient, but the efficiency is coming increasingly closer to a turbo. some SC literature/advertising even claim better efficiency. but i digress. its not always about efficiency. sometimes the boost curve/torque curve and the driveability of it is more important to you than numbers...

[Kostamojen]

Originally Posted by Dragonitti

Yeah, ones that no one wants

Says you!

I'd be perfectly happy with Subaru or Toyota take-offs. I could care less about spending obscene money on wheels.

My only concern is the offset, but I suspect they will be Subaru offsets (Between +48 and +55)

[Leeky]

5x100 FTW hehe

[Andy]

People seem to forget, Wheels are not manufactured with PCD and offset there from the initial construction.

The wheels are normally made as a blank then machined for PCD, centrbore and ofter ET after the wheel is made.

The manufacturers will be able to do whatever size you want (within reason) and if not, then buy a blank and find a engineering company to machine them for ET and PCD (and centrebore)