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05-15-2019, 01:14 PM | #43 | |
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However, a lot of people who daily their car drive on 200TW all Summer long, so why not do that? |
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^^ what he said. Id rather have a tire that is consistent over the entire session even if it sacrifices some ultimate grip. Its not a race, I could care less if Im 1 second slower per lap. |
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IMO, this comes down to how big your balls are.
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Seems to me that the go to right now is GT Radial Champiro SX2 which overtook the Bridgestone RE11 which seems to be out of production now. Based on your other comments seems like it's a good fit, 6 track days and 10k miles might be a bit of a stretch but they're cheap enough that hopefully it doesn't break the bank. Their popularity is driven by sponsorship of 86Cup but I don't hear too many complaints of them greasing up and the reviews are all about how durable they are. I'd suggest Ferodo DS2500 to replace the Hawks once they're gone, good hybrid pad, I'm happy DD'ing mine but I have Carbotechs for the track. |
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It’s my fave 200TW tire. It isn’t the fastest but for me the best all around tire.
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I don't have experience with the PS4S, but had a set of PSS.
I had trouble running enough camber to keep the PSS from wearing the outer shoulder for track use. Had -3.5 in front and the tires had to be replaced due to the wear on the outer quarter - the rest of the tire had tread left. The PSS would get greasy if pushed hard and I'd have to back off during a session and cool them down. I hear the PS4S are better than the PSS in terms of shoulder wear (Track friend with a Camaro uses them for daily/track use - the PSS was bad with shoulder wear, the PS4S improves that situation for him, didn't solve it). I was contemplating other suspension changes (beyond RCE Yellows+camber plates/bolts) to help even out the tire wear. However, both the wear and overheating issue went away with SX2s. The SX2s lated as long as the PSS if not longer since I could use the whole tire. |
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I've had a set of PS4S, AD08Rs, and now RS4s. Of the three, so far my favorite has been the AD08Rs but I haven't put the RS4s on track yet. The PS4S is a fantastic street tire, but it just can't hold up to consistent track abuse at all. I had serious problems with chunking and weird shoulder wear tracking on the PS4S, but I will admit it did much better than I expected. If you're doing 6 track days a year you'll be bankrupting yourself buying Michelins. The AD08Rs were the cheapest decent 200tw when I got them, and the RS4s were cheaper this go around. For street/track hybrid role, 200tw summer tires seem to be where it's at, at least here in Texas.
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Where are you buying SX2's? Do they have the soft shoulder compounds like the PSS/PS4S. The Camaro has double wishbones so maybe a better camber curve then our parts bin cars. Quote:
I may be resigning myself to the 200tw track day reality. 225/45/17 200tw options Falken Azenis 615K+ $129x4=$513 Bridgestone R-S4 $158x4=$630 Yokohama AD08R $211x4$800+ Glad I'm not driving a corvette. I could see myself getting some Falken's and wearing them out by late October. That would delay having to buy wheels until spring 2020. Shame to kill such nice tires commuting. |
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They don't have a different compound on the shoulder - it's the same across the tire AFIAK. They are not the best tires in the wet, but if memory serves they are as good as the stock primacy tires. |
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For session heat cycling I’d say you have about 15 mins before tire starts cooking. Total track time I’m averaging about 6 hours of track time. Typically though I abuse the tire and run about 20mins sessions until the tire is unusable and let it cool off for about 15-20mins before heading out again. By the end of the day the tires are ready for recycling. What tires are you guys typically using for endurance sessions? I don’t mind sacrificing time for some consistent longevity. I went with the RE71R’s since that’s what most local people said were the track tire of choice and I’ve just stuck with them. |
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I bought the full set online for like $200, I think from Simpletire. They're from 2015 but they work fine. They're definitely best bang for the buck, and I have no complaints. |
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The SX2 isn't the fastest tire, but they're cheap, and have FANTASTIC life. Unbeatable training tire. Street compound on a R-compound carcass. |
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Ok, I'm ordering some SX2. What's the best size for a completely stock FRS (with good brake pads)?
225/45 on 17x8 wheel? Or something wider? On a 17x9? |
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