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Of course it won't be a transmission borrowed from either car priced as high, but they could have taken some of the stuff they learned and maybe even a few parts from one. People driving the car are already saying its hard to chose between. I'm not debating on witch one I'd rather have, I need my clutch, but I am curious. |
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It was people here on this forum that convinced me to keep driving manual, even if I have a leg injury so no automatic for me XD but the automatic is what I guess it would be to be honest. The same as the one in the Miata I'm willing to bet on it that it's similar and or uses the same method and parts.
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Nowhere else are we seeing these "facts" reported, quite the opposite, so someone dropped the ball here. Are you sure it wasn't just some random Japanese guy in a Toyota Jacket wanting to speak English to a foreigner? Believe me, it happens...
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At this point just wait like a day lol
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Leeky said the transmission was based off the LFA's single clutch automated manual gearbox. That is still possible since there are cheap cars that have dual clutch trannies...ie ford focus, and Hyundai veloster. They could have put in a single clutch tranny In the 86. We will find out by wensday. But my gut from what I have seen is isf based tranny. The Porsche dual clutch tranny (pdk) shifts faster and the Porsche 911 is faster with the 7 speed pdk vs the 7 speed manual. I think people who choose the auto will be happy... Me? Manual is the only way... |
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Trip The automatic in the ISF is the AISIN AA80E Lexus doesn't make it's own transmission AISIN makes it for them. They Also make Transmission for alot of other car companies like Mazda now the Miata with it's AUtomatic AISIN TB61 SN shares parts with the ISF transmission.
Therefore, yes it's nothing based on the Miata, but the 86 has a chance that it will get the same AISIN part, infact the ISF and Miata share parts for transmission. That Execellent Automatic and the Manual is Aisin made, the manual in the 86 is literally the updated transmission of the S2000 as far as Aisin is concerned.
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well I think that's the question we're all waiting to find out, because the Transmission maker makes all the transmission for all Toyota, so how will it feel? we know it's all the same parts, now it's about the tuning. And so far from what we've heard, it's like Training Video: ISF Leeky: LFA
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Guys, just to clear up the gearbox and production number information came from the head of advertising in Japan.
But... he did try telling me that the LFA was a V8....and it wasnt until i insisted it was a V10 that he thought about it for a second and said yes he was mistaken. So its quite possible he made mistakes about other things but like i said i will confirm the numbers, gearbox and hand made information with him again when i see him tomorrow. Also just a bit more information i forgot to mention. He said that for Toyota they want this car because their image is too "Family" and they want to inject the excitement back into the Toyota brand that has been lacking since the Celica, Supra and MR2 went. He totally said that there is no profit being made on this car. So with that in mind it makes no sense for them to make a huge number of these cars. The 86 is going to raise the brand image and help to sell their regular models where there profitability is. Also because manurfacturers are supposed to 'average' a certain level of c02 emissions across their range i believe they can only really make a certain number of these cars before it starts to drag down their average which is very good at the moment thanks to cars like the prius. Aston Martin only started making the IQ based Cygnet to bring their average down as currently their smallest engine is a V8. I think limited numbers is a really good thing I was not sure about buying an 86 brand new as they would heavily depreciate just like the 350z/370z. But keep the numbers down and the rarity keeps their value up After seeing the car i am almost certain i am going to order a brand new one for the release date in April. But i want to get the full TRD options list too as from the pictures this really finishes the car off very well and will again help to keep the value up. I just hope that the TRD parts will be available in the UK. If not i hope that all the contacts/friends i have made in Toyota Japan and Toyota UK will be able to help me get all the TRD parts I really really hope they have a TRD 86 at the show tomorrow! |
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Thanks Leeky!
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Thanks for the update.
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limited number is not great for a car that's under $30k US. there are ferraris that are produced in greater numbers than 1000 a year worldwide.
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