Rod Knock on leased FR-S - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

tony707c · 04-21-2017, 07:27 PM

Hi everyone,

longtime lurker, second time posting. Before i get into it, I know I was irresponsible and didn't do what I should have regarding maintenance. I have a 2015 Scion FRS and my lease is up on December 24th of this year. With that being said, I noticed a rattling noise coming from the engine & took it to the dealer. Long story short its a rod knock in the engine. They asked for maintenance records and the last one I did was at 15k miles. I'm currently at 34K, because of that it's not under warranty and they Toyota won't cover anything. The reason I didn't do an oil change between then was because I was told I wouldn't need anything until the 30K Service. I know I should have changed the oil every 7500 miles at least, but I didn't for lack of better judgement. My options are buying a new engine, buying a used one (was quoted $4600K+ for one with 63K miles), or hopefully finding a mechanic that will essentially do a "band-aid fix" on it just so it passes the end of lease inspection. The first two options aren't an option for me as I'm a college student with no savings or financial income necessary to fund that. So now I ask anyone for help in my situation. If you know a local mechanic in the Bay Area that can help I'd appreciate it.

My friend said to try to fool the original dealership i got it from and tell them I changed my own oil and somehow forge some paperwork or something so warranty will cover it.

I know how irresponsible I was and dumb for not using common sense about the maintenance, so I ask to keep the name calling to a minimum.

VIP BRZ · 04-21-2017, 07:46 PM

Ouch, all these guys are going to tell you to take responsibility for it and not try an "trick" anyone.

live an learn, change your oil!!!

imnotsureaboutbrz · 04-21-2017, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by tony707c

...The first two options aren't an option for me as I'm a college student with no savings or financial income necessary to fund that. ...

Sorry I'm not gonna be much help but what I want to know is how did you manage to get yourself into a 2015 FR-S lease in the first place? You using student loans to fund your car payments?

Urmyson · 04-21-2017, 11:00 PM

I kinda have a hard time believing that missing that oil change killed your engine. There are tests with snythetic oil going 20k and the oil was still good. I wouldn't ever go that far but still. Did you admit to not changing the oil?

Lantana frs · 04-21-2017, 11:39 PM

I wonder how much oil was left after 20k miles.

imnotsureaboutbrz · 04-21-2017, 11:47 PM

It's a shame no one told him he needed regular maintenance
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79720

nikitopo · 04-22-2017, 12:36 AM

The same happened to a dealer that had a demo car for test drive and car magazine testing. They didn't change the oil for 15k miles and the engine broke. Next time change your oil in time.

Impureclient · 04-22-2017, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by nikitopo

The same happened to a dealer that had a demo car for test drive and car magazine testing. They didn't change the oil for 15k miles and the engine broke. Next time change your oil in time.

It broke in two, like split in half or was it ejected from the car?

guybo · 04-22-2017, 05:38 AM

You can try and forge paperwork for your oil changes, but they'll know as soon as they open up the engine. You can't fake the internal changes caused by not changing the oil.

nikitopo · 04-22-2017, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Impureclient

It broke in two, like split in half or was it ejected from the car?

Broken internals for god's sake.

humfrz · 04-22-2017, 01:15 PM

How about taking the car back to where you got it and tell them that you don't want to lease it anymore, hand them the keys and walk away. ...... ??

humfrz

tony707c · 04-22-2017, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imnotsureaboutbrz

Sorry I'm not gonna be much help but what I want to know is how did you manage to get yourself into a 2015 FR-S lease in the first place? You using student loans to fund your car payments?

No I had a decent paying job back when I got the car in 2014 and was sacrificing school. Now that I'm back in school, I don't make enough to save up as much as I'd like. I'm working on getting a second job at the moment.

tony707c · 04-22-2017, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urmyson

I kinda have a hard time believing that missing that oil change killed your engine. There are tests with snythetic oil going 20k and the oil was still good. I wouldn't ever go that far but still. Did you admit to not changing the oil?

Yeah i admitted to it which looking back at now, I probably shouldn't have. That way I could have at least gotten some leniency regarding the warranty.

tony707c · 04-22-2017, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by humfrz

How about taking the car back to where you got it and tell them that you don't want to lease it anymore, hand them the keys and walk away. ...... ??

humfrz

If only it were that easy..

04-21-2017, 07:27 PM	#1
tony707c Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Drives: 2015 Scion FR-S Location: Napa, California Posts: 17 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 3 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Rod Knock on leased FR-S Hi everyone, longtime lurker, second time posting. Before i get into it, I know I was irresponsible and didn't do what I should have regarding maintenance. I have a 2015 Scion FRS and my lease is up on December 24th of this year. With that being said, I noticed a rattling noise coming from the engine & took it to the dealer. Long story short its a rod knock in the engine. They asked for maintenance records and the last one I did was at 15k miles. I'm currently at 34K, because of that it's not under warranty and they Toyota won't cover anything. The reason I didn't do an oil change between then was because I was told I wouldn't need anything until the 30K Service. I know I should have changed the oil every 7500 miles at least, but I didn't for lack of better judgement. My options are buying a new engine, buying a used one (was quoted $4600K+ for one with 63K miles), or hopefully finding a mechanic that will essentially do a "band-aid fix" on it just so it passes the end of lease inspection. The first two options aren't an option for me as I'm a college student with no savings or financial income necessary to fund that. So now I ask anyone for help in my situation. If you know a local mechanic in the Bay Area that can help I'd appreciate it. My friend said to try to fool the original dealership i got it from and tell them I changed my own oil and somehow forge some paperwork or something so warranty will cover it. I know how irresponsible I was and dumb for not using common sense about the maintenance, so I ask to keep the name calling to a minimum.

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04-21-2017, 07:46 PM	#2
VIP BRZ Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Drives: 2014 Subaru BRZ Location: CA - San Fernando Valley Posts: 492 Thanks: 242 Thanked 333 Times in 179 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Ouch, all these guys are going to tell you to take responsibility for it and not try an "trick" anyone. live an learn, change your oil!!!

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Urmyson Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Drives: BRZ Location: FL Posts: 191 Thanks: 12 Thanked 45 Times in 28 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I kinda have a hard time believing that missing that oil change killed your engine. There are tests with snythetic oil going 20k and the oil was still good. I wouldn't ever go that far but still. Did you admit to not changing the oil?

04-21-2017, 11:39 PM	#5
Lantana frs Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Drives: 13 frs red Location: Lantana fl Posts: 448 Thanks: 51 Thanked 198 Times in 115 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I wonder how much oil was left after 20k miles.

04-21-2017, 11:47 PM	#6
imnotsureaboutbrz Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Drives: between cars... Location: Ohio Posts: 498 Thanks: 192 Thanked 263 Times in 158 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	It's a shame no one told him he needed regular maintenance http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79720

04-22-2017, 12:36 AM	#7
nikitopo Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Drives: '15 BRZ RA Location: Greece Posts: 3,787 Thanks: 2,416 Thanked 1,944 Times in 1,261 Posts Mentioned: 29 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The same happened to a dealer that had a demo car for test drive and car magazine testing. They didn't change the oil for 15k miles and the engine broke. Next time change your oil in time.

04-22-2017, 05:38 AM	#9
guybo Huge E85 fan! Join Date: May 2016 Drives: 2016 Scion FRS Location: Tampa, FL, USA Posts: 1,850 Thanks: 539 Thanked 1,010 Times in 605 Posts Mentioned: 32 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	You can try and forge paperwork for your oil changes, but they'll know as soon as they open up the engine. You can't fake the internal changes caused by not changing the oil.

04-22-2017, 01:15 PM	#11
humfrz Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Drives: 2013 FR-S, white, MT Location: Puyallup, WA Posts: 29,866 Thanks: 28,787 Thanked 31,813 Times in 16,424 Posts Mentioned: 708 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	How about taking the car back to where you got it and tell them that you don't want to lease it anymore, hand them the keys and walk away. ...... ?? humfrz

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