Toyota GR Yaris

[Lantanafrs2]

That little thing weighs 2800 lbs?

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by JD001

I wonder if anyone working for Toyota visits this Forum.. They would learn so much, get to understand how "normal" folk function, how they use their cars and buying experiences.

lol like people here are "normal"

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by Lantanafrs2

That little thing weighs 2800 lbs?

AWD, turbo, 2+2 seating, modern safety and chassis rigidity, a hatchback, all for 50# more than an FRZ? I'm fucking impressed.

The powertrain is where I'm worried, I wouldn't hate something FWD biased, but without some LSD it will be a hot mess trying to drive it at 10/10ths. I'm hoping that 270hp is stout and reliable, they're wringing a lot out of a tiny engine.

On paper executed right this thing is brilliant, but it could easily be a dud. Hell all the >$30k super hatches have weak spots, shit is not easy on a budget.

[why?]

While I doubt this would ever come to the USA, I wish it would so I could buy it.

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by why?

While I doubt this would ever come to the USA, I wish it would so I could buy it.

Toyota doesn't even sell the real Yaris here, already confirmed not for US shores, does seem like EU is getting it though.

[JD001]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

lol like people here are "normal"

Yeah, kinda!! I was being polite!!

BTW, I have registered on Toyota's site..

[JD001]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

AWD, turbo, 2+2 seating, modern safety and chassis rigidity, a hatchback, all for 50# more than an FRZ? I'm fucking impressed.

The powertrain is where I'm worried, I wouldn't hate something FWD biased, but without some LSD it will be a hot mess trying to drive it at 10/10ths. I'm hoping that 270hp is stout and reliable, they're wringing a lot out of a tiny engine.

On paper executed right this thing is brilliant, but it could easily be a dud. Hell all the >$30k super hatches have weak spots, shit is not easy on a budget.

I'm reading that the 'track' pack will come with 2 LSDs.. I think it's going to be a real cracker!!

[why?]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

Toyota doesn't even sell the real Yaris here, already confirmed not for US shores, does seem like EU is getting it though.

That's not that big a deal, the Yaris is only a hatch in most of the world, the sedan is a totally different model. They play fast and loose with car names all the time.

But I agree that the chance of it coming to the USA are near zero.

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by why?

That's not that big a deal, the Yaris is only a hatch in most of the world, the sedan is a totally different model. They play fast and loose with car names all the time.

But I agree that the chance of it coming to the USA are near zero.

I don't think you understand, the US 'Yaris' is a rebadged Mazda2, they'd have to do all the safety and emissions testing from scratch to get the actual Yaris onto showroom floors and they wouldn't sell any of them, nor would they expect to jacking up the price into a death spiral of even fewer people lining up to buy them. I'd bet they'd lose money on these things which means an even shittier dealership experience contributing further to the death spiral.

Or Toyota could prove me wrong, I'll put $36k on the line after a test drive.

[funwheeldrive]

Can't wait to import one in 25 years

[JD001]

Originally Posted by funwheeldrive

Can't wait to import one in 25 years

If there is enough interest, I can buy say a dozen, stick them in a storage unit for 25yrs.. Just think about what they'll be worth in 25yrs with only delivery mileage.

Any takers??

[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

I don't think you understand, the US 'Yaris' is a rebadged Mazda2, they'd have to do all the safety and emissions testing from scratch to get the actual Yaris onto showroom floors and they wouldn't sell any of them, nor would they expect to jacking up the price into a death spiral of even fewer people lining up to buy them. I'd bet they'd lose money on these things which means an even shittier dealership experience contributing further to the death spiral.

Or Toyota could prove me wrong, I'll put $36k on the line after a test drive.

I think that came later. We have had the Echo here and Yaris for a while. When pictures of the Echo hatchback hit the US, interest led to Toyota bringing the compact hatch here under the Yaris badge. My ex had a red Yaris sedan back in 2008. It was a real POS in quality. It made the Corolla feel luxury.

I get the general interest in this version. It is essentially a light weight WRX or something built on a tin can chassis, so it is light, but having driven my ex’s Yaris, I am very skeptical about the quality.

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

I think that came later. We have had the Echo here and Yaris for a while. When pictures of the Echo hatchback hit the US, interest led to Toyota bringing the compact hatch here under the Yaris badge. My ex had a red Yaris sedan back in 2008. It was a real POS in quality. It made the Corolla feel luxury.

I get the general interest in this version. It is essentially a light weight WRX or something built on a tin can chassis, so it is light, but having driven my ex’s Yaris, I am very skeptical about the quality.

Wut

The current US car called a Yaris is a Mazda2, the rest of the world gets a TNG based car that is leaps and bounds higher quality than what Toyota shitboxes were even five years ago.

You are literally comparing a car from 2008 to a car from 2020, that's like saying the latest mustang is crap because the SN95s were crap, literally skipping a whole generation of development, or C6 Corvettes vs C4, or CRX vs CVCC.

IDGAF how bad the car was 10+ years ago, and if you're smart you shouldn't either.

Also I think shitboxes are fun and I'll take a Toyota built interior on a TNG over any Subaru interior I've experienced.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Yaris

[Captain Snooze]

Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

back in 2008.

I don't understand how one can compare a similarly named vehicle from 12 years ago with a modern car.