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10-11-2019, 11:09 AM | #1 |
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2021 Toyota Mirai
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https://www.autoblog.com/2019/10/10/...irai-revealed/ To sum it up, it went from frumpy overweight weird prius-like oddball, to Toyota Crown RWD sedan clone. More RWD Toyotas in the works? Lets start that rumor! |
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Does that include the 2nd gen 86? |
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An actual fuel cell deal.. interesting. Apparently electric cars are so much simpler to build that the amount and variety of new cars that are about to flood the market is crazy.
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Building is one thing, distributing, selling and servicing through a dealer network another, as Dyson realized. https://www.theverge.com/2019/10/10/...car-ev-project No question that a fundamental shift is taking place in the electrification of people and cargo transportation with Toyota leading the way in hybrid sales increase this year that have exceeded plan. Nationwide there's only a 3-days supply of RAV4 hybrid vs 60-120 DS for ICE cars (200+ DS of 86's) with typically no incentives to push RAV4 hybrids. Next electrified Toyota up will be a unicorn, the plug-in hybrid RAV4. The production vehicle will be revealed at the LA Auto show. If it has a 10kWh+ battery it'll qualify for $10K Fed/State tax credits in my state plus free reserved parking and charging in lots of places like major metros and airports. https://pressroom.toyota.com/2021-ra...les-auto-show/ |
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I think the automotive industry is going through a Bitcoin type bubble with upstarts trying to attract capital before the Founders then literally pull the plug and drive off in their Bentleys.
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Tesla has proven that the electric platform is a better platform, and that realization by the market will drive manufactures to adopt electric and hybrid platforms.
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The Bugatti will chew through a full tank of gas in 12 minutes or less at top speed. Racecars fuel often too. I’m sure in time the battery capacity will improve.
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That made me hopeful that they'll be tuning their future THS systems toward sport until learning that the next hybrid reveal after RAV4 PHEV will be Sienna. Quote:
At least they're packaging the new batteries in better locations. The new Camry and RAV have their batteries under the rear seat vs. the prior generation in the trunk or under the load floor making for a better CG mentioned by most testers. All this said, Akio Toyoda has said that fuel cell vehicles are the long term future. Of course long term to him means within the next 50 years. |
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most likely. I am sure they saw the car from mississippi state. Under 3000 pounds, plug in hybrid, faster than the current vehicle. How can you beat that? Only thing not to like is the engine in their car only powers the battery.
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Lot less moving parts
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That thing is sick! |
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2 stroke emissions might be an issue with that car. They didn't give much info on that end
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