Got a track related question? I'll try to answer.

[wparsons]

Originally Posted by Tofu-86

When learning an unfamiliar track, how do you find the optimum point to start braking and the point to get back to power?

Start braking earlier, then lap after lap brake a bit deeper (5-10 feet, not 50 feet) until you're either out of guts to go deeper, or are entering the turn too fast. Keep in mind braking points will vary with entry speed, pavement temp, tire temp, etc.

Originally Posted by Tofu-86

Also, I've been in an accident when I attempted to drift but overcorrected the car. How should I avoid similar situation (overcorrection/ fish tailing) technique wise?

The best way is to practice in a safe environment until correcting something like that becomes completely intuitive and doesn't require thinking about corrective action. Wet and/or snowy pavement are great as well if you can find any.

[Uplink]

Originally Posted by wparsons

Start braking earlier, then lap after lap brake a bit deeper (5-10 feet, not 50 feet) until you're either out of guts to go deeper, or are entering the turn too fast. Keep in mind braking points will vary with entry speed, pavement temp, tire temp, etc.

Also remember, when you get one corner 'right', your approach speed to the next braking zone will be higher so be prepared to adjust accordingly.

Originally Posted by wparsons

The best way is to practice in a safe environment until correcting something like that becomes completely intuitive and doesn't require thinking about corrective action. Wet and/or snowy pavement are great as well if you can find any.

See if your local track / car clubs are offering skid pad / car control clinics. They will usually pair you with an instructor which speeds up the learning curve, and the surface will be properly prepared (wet/soap/etc.) to allow you to easily induce skids at slower, more controllable speeds. Then build from there.

[Bramick]

Originally Posted by Uplink

Also remember, when you get one corner 'right', your approach speed to the next braking zone will be higher so be prepared to adjust accordingly.



See if your local track / car clubs are offering skid pad / car control clinics. They will usually pair you with an instructor which speeds up the learning curve, and the surface will be properly prepared (wet/soap/etc.) to allow you to easily induce skids at slower, more controllable speeds. Then build from there.

This is a big one for me. You nail a turn then come in hotter on the next turn. Apply the same thought process. When in doubt start early and ease into deeper braking.

[dp1]

Brake fluid comparison chart:
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[Shark_Bait88]

Posted this in the wheels/tires section, but figured I'd share here too:

I'll be taking delivery of my new wheels in the next couple months (5-6 months is such a long wait time ) And In the meantime I'm debating tires.

The car will be daily driven and taken to a decent number of track days throughout the year, hoping to do at least one a month for this season. The wheels are 17x8 +35, and I'm currently debating between 225/45 and 235/40 ZII*. I prefer the meatier/wider tire with the 235, but in a discussion with a US rep from the company he mentioned that with the +35 offset I may have fitment issues with a 235, I imagine he was referring to rubbing issues, and have to run a 225 or 215. The car will be lowered around 1" on coilovers, and I will also have camber plates and new LCAs installed at the same time. Currently thinking of running between -2 to -2.5 camber in the front and -1.5 to -2 in the rear.

From folks with similar sized wheels out there who daily and track, would you expect there to really be any issues running a 235/40 tire? What benefits and drawbacks might there be to either size?

[Uplink]

Originally Posted by Shark_Bait88

Posted this in the wheels/tires section, but figured I'd share here too:

I'll be taking delivery of my new wheels in the next couple months (5-6 months is such a long wait time ) And In the meantime I'm debating tires.

The car will be daily driven and taken to a decent number of track days throughout the year, hoping to do at least one a month for this season. The wheels are 17x8 +35, and I'm currently debating between 225/45 and 235/40 ZII*. I prefer the meatier/wider tire with the 235, but in a discussion with a US rep from the company he mentioned that with the +35 offset I may have fitment issues with a 235, I imagine he was referring to rubbing issues, and have to run a 225 or 215. The car will be lowered around 1" on coilovers, and I will also have camber plates and new LCAs installed at the same time. Currently thinking of running between -2 to -2.5 camber in the front and -1.5 to -2 in the rear.

From folks with similar sized wheels out there who daily and track, would you expect there to really be any issues running a 235/40 tire? What benefits and drawbacks might there be to either size?

Which wheels? I personally run the RPF1's in a 17x8 with 245/40 Z2's (3 sets so far) on bone stock suspension with no rubbing at all, track, AX, or street. That setup has been absolutely fantastic all year long since the car is a daily and I'm too lazy to swap wheels.

From what I've heard, coilovers actually give you more clearance. Guys with 255's have needed to go CO for fitment.

[Shark_Bait88]

Originally Posted by Uplink

Which wheels? I personally run the RPF1's in a 17x8 with 245/40 Z2's (3 sets so far) on bone stock suspension with no rubbing at all, track, AX, or street. That setup has been absolutely fantastic all year long since the car is a daily and I'm too lazy to swap wheels.

From what I've heard, coilovers actually give you more clearance. Guys with 255's have needed to go CO for fitment.

RS-Watanabe F8. Going for a bit of the old school look.

[Uplink]

Originally Posted by Shark_Bait88

RS-Watanabe F8. Going for a bit of the old school look.

Nice!

Actually, just double checked, the RPF-1's are a 45mm offset. That 35mm might put you close to the fenders but should definitely keep you away from suspension components.

[Shark_Bait88]

Originally Posted by Uplink

Nice!

Actually, just double checked, the RPF-1's are a 45mm offset. That 35mm might put you close to the fenders but should definitely keep you away from suspension components.

Yeah, I think the fender is where the rep was implying I might have an issue. His direct quote from our email correspondence is:

"17x8 35 offset which is lightly aggressive size. you may required narrow size tire which is 215 or 225 wide size and rolled fender and suspension kit to make lowered and negative camber. if you go to slam lowered and super negative camber then you can fit wide and lower offset however you can not drive daily with wider than this size of wheel. so this is aggressive size but still you can drive daily."

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by Shark_Bait88

Posted this in the wheels/tires section, but figured I'd share here too:

I'll be taking delivery of my new wheels in the next couple months (5-6 months is such a long wait time ) And In the meantime I'm debating tires.

The car will be daily driven and taken to a decent number of track days throughout the year, hoping to do at least one a month for this season. The wheels are 17x8 +35, and I'm currently debating between 225/45 and 235/40 ZII*. I prefer the meatier/wider tire with the 235, but in a discussion with a US rep from the company he mentioned that with the +35 offset I may have fitment issues with a 235, I imagine he was referring to rubbing issues, and have to run a 225 or 215. The car will be lowered around 1" on coilovers, and I will also have camber plates and new LCAs installed at the same time. Currently thinking of running between -2 to -2.5 camber in the front and -1.5 to -2 in the rear.

From folks with similar sized wheels out there who daily and track, would you expect there to really be any issues running a 235/40 tire? What benefits and drawbacks might there be to either size?

225/45/17.

Not because of fitment, but because you'll get better respone out of the tire.

[Shark_Bait88]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

225/40/17.

Not because of fitment, but because you'll get better respone out of the tire.

Is that because the only tires I can find in that size are r-comps? lol

[CSG Mike]

Typo! 225/45/17

[Shark_Bait88]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Typo! 225/45/17

Haha I figured.

[Campo]

Originally Posted by Shark_Bait88

Posted this in the wheels/tires section, but figured I'd share here too:

I'll be taking delivery of my new wheels in the next couple months (5-6 months is such a long wait time ) And In the meantime I'm debating tires.

The car will be daily driven and taken to a decent number of track days throughout the year, hoping to do at least one a month for this season. The wheels are 17x8 +35, and I'm currently debating between 225/45 and 235/40 ZII*. I prefer the meatier/wider tire with the 235, but in a discussion with a US rep from the company he mentioned that with the +35 offset I may have fitment issues with a 235, I imagine he was referring to rubbing issues, and have to run a 225 or 215. The car will be lowered around 1" on coilovers, and I will also have camber plates and new LCAs installed at the same time. Currently thinking of running between -2 to -2.5 camber in the front and -1.5 to -2 in the rear.

From folks with similar sized wheels out there who daily and track, would you expect there to really be any issues running a 235/40 tire? What benefits and drawbacks might there be to either size?

on the street I run 255/30-19 on a 19x8.5 +45 on stock suspension without rub anywhere (Pirelli PZero Nero - all tires have different shoulder widths than the spec, so you actually have to physically measure to make sure you clear). Your +35 offset combined with the 20mm thinner tire than mine *should* put your width (not width) outside shoulder at exactly the same as mine, but I'm not sure how your aspect will relate to the height. I went 30 series to stay shorter...

edit=your width won't be the same, the location of the outside shoulder should be the same.

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

225/45/17.

Not because of fitment, but because you'll get better respone out of the tire.

^^^ This all day long for a car that's going to see double duty as a DD and track bitch.

Ignore everything I said above and just run this size. Or get two sets of rims/tires.