Strano Performance Parts 22mm Tubular front swaybar

[NYC BRZ]

I imagine a small bump to a WRX 16mm rear bar along with Sam's front bar wouldn't be too dramatic of a change and might work quite nicely.

[Kido1986]

Originally Posted by simpleisbest

Rear? You mean front, right?

Ooops! You're right, I made a typo. No rear bar for now haha

Fixed it... I dont know what mistake you're talking about :P

[QuikJ]

Originally Posted by NYC BRZ

I imagine a small bump to a WRX 16mm rear bar along with Sam's front bar wouldn't be too dramatic of a change and might work quite nicely.

Depending on the class. IRC, stock class you can only add one bar.

[Kido1986]

Yeah, one bar only.

[xwd]

PM'd you Sam.

[Sam Strano]

Originally Posted by NYC BRZ

I imagine a small bump to a WRX 16mm rear bar along with Sam's front bar wouldn't be too dramatic of a change and might work quite nicely.

That's a very dramatic change. I don't think you want to try that until you get a front on. I don't want a bigger rear bar at this point myself.

[NYC BRZ]

Originally Posted by Sam Strano

That's a very dramatic change. I don't think you want to try that until you get a front on. I don't want a bigger rear bar at this point myself.

I would only experiment with the WRX bar with your bar sitting on the front. I believe Bill Cook tried a bigger rear bar and the car was all over the place. I guess we'll see what happens and how the handling feels with yours on then I can always pick up a WRX rear for cheap to play. I understand that Stock only allows 1 bar but it still could be fun and not that hard to remove I'd imagine.

How hard is it to remove the front bar on these cars? My old G8 was a PIA to remove the front because you had to pry up power steering hoses and rotate the bar a billion times before it would come out.

[mike2100]

Any comments on getting spring rates and damping right before tweaking with anti-sway bars?

[Sam Strano]

Originally Posted by NYC BRZ

I would only experiment with the WRX bar with your bar sitting on the front. I believe Bill Cook tried a bigger rear bar and the car was all over the place. I guess we'll see what happens and how the handling feels with yours on then I can always pick up a WRX rear for cheap to play. I understand that Stock only allows 1 bar but it still could be fun and not that hard to remove I'd imagine.

How hard is it to remove the front bar on these cars? My old G8 was a PIA to remove the front because you had to pry up power steering hoses and rotate the bar a billion times before it would come out.

The front bar is not bad. Really the biggest pain is taking off the underbody panels and all the bolts there. The bar itself is not hard (though it helps a lot if you have wobble extensions).

[Sam Strano]

Originally Posted by mike2100

Any comments on getting spring rates and damping right before tweaking with anti-sway bars?

Depends. In stock class you cannot change springs at all. Damping doesn't control bar like it does spring rate. Bars aren't damped by shocks at all. Bars will change balance, but again shocks don't change actual balance of the car they change the rate at which things happen (like how fast the car generates roll and pitch, or takes a set).

[Sccabrz192]

Originally Posted by Sam Strano

Depends. In stock class you cannot change springs at all. Damping doesn't control bar like it does spring rate. Bars aren't damped by shocks at all. Bars will change balance, but again shocks don't change actual balance of the car they change the rate at which things happen (like how fast the car generates roll and pitch, or takes a set).

I agree with Sam but maybe to phrase it a little different...

The purpose of the sway bar is to increase the corner spring rate during maneuvers where the two sides of the car (left/right) are functioning independently (rolling/pitching during cornering). If you plan to significantly increase the spring rates of the car, you will need to reevaluate the need for the sway bar based on your desire for the way the car handles. If you go to a very high spring rate, and leave a stiff bar, the car will be very likely to skip or hop over undulations during cornering, which is undesired. As you increase the spring stiffness, your need for a sway bar will decrease and you should reduce the size appropriately based on the cars attitude. If you do a modest spring rate change, chances are you will feel the car "handles better" with the bar + the springs because you didn't go very aggressive. From my understanding, Sam has sized this bar to be a modest rate increase, such that it can be used in a variety of applications... sounds like to be suitable for both the stock and ST crowds

[Sam Strano]

More progress..... We have the bushing thing worked out on production, just need to get them made. Down to details now. I am hoping we have bars ready to roll by 10/19. Fingers Crossed.

[mike2100]

Originally Posted by Sam Strano

Depends. In stock class you cannot change springs at all. Damping doesn't control bar like it does spring rate. Bars aren't damped by shocks at all. Bars will change balance, but again shocks don't change actual balance of the car they change the rate at which things happen (like how fast the car generates roll and pitch, or takes a set).

Ah, sorry. Autocross never enters my mind when I think of this stuff

[simpleisbest]

Originally Posted by Sam Strano

More progress..... We have the bushing thing worked out on production, just need to get them made. Down to details now. I am hoping we have bars ready to roll by 10/19. Fingers Crossed.

That would be awesome!!! Fingers crossed here, too!