SARD Surge Tank Kit w/ ITB from TAS 2017

[JDM4E]

It seems it is available on the EMC site, sard is probably only rebranding this
http://emc-eng.net/

[mav1178]

Originally Posted by JDM4E

It seems it is available on the EMC site, sard is probably only rebranding this
http://emc-eng.net/

Sard's surge tank is of a completely different design.

[cyde01]

I got my hopes all up... yeah that's a totally different company. So far the only one that makes itbs.

[JDM4E]

Originally Posted by cyde01

I got my hopes all up... yeah that's a totally different company. So far the only one that makes itbs.

ok, sorry then. But the kits are "the same" in terms of idea/design. Also, I saw the EMC kit on sale somewhere, so I see no reason to wait for SARD.
I am extremely interested in this too.

[Calum]

Originally Posted by mav1178

"Hello?... I'm sorry, how much does a dyno session cost?"

*click*

The nearest tuner I'd take this car to is a 15 hour drive away. If I can get 95% of the performance from a remote tune I'd happily take that. The remote tune means I don't have to take days off work, pay for a hotel and a tow vehicle & trailer. That extra $500 for the tune would likely be an extra $1500 by the time everything was said and done.

[mav1178]

Originally Posted by Calum

The nearest tuner I'd take this car to is a 15 hour drive away. If I can get 95% of the performance from a remote tune I'd happily take that. The remote tune means I don't have to take days off work, pay for a hotel and a tow vehicle & trailer. That extra $500 for the tune would likely be an extra $1500 by the time everything was said and done.

For someone like you, yes it works fine.

I'm mostly talking about those living within walking distance of a tuner in a major metropolitan area.

I grew up here in Southern California, and I can probably fill an entire baseball stadium of people I've dealt with in the last 25 years that are "too cheap to pay for a tune" and yet have no problem dropping thousands of dollars on their mods.

It started back when guys were modding cars with reflashed JWT ECUs on their Nissans. $600 for too expensive for what they wanted, so they just did basic resistor mods. Then the Power FC came out and was wildly popular for the SR20DET swap, guys would buy the $1000 unit and not pay money for a tune, yet have no problem copying someone else's map off the dot matrix display. Then you have AEM, and subsequent "easier" engine management programs to use...

But it's 2017, we all do stuff on computers now...

[cyde01]

Originally Posted by JDM4E

ok, sorry then. But the kits are "the same" in terms of idea/design. Also, I saw the EMC kit on sale somewhere, so I see no reason to wait for SARD.
I am extremely interested in this too.

really the only way that it's "the same" is the fact that it's a surge tank and itbs. Aside from that everything is different. No way to know if it's any good without dynoing it.

[Teseo]

I would like to see some dyno graphs with it on bone stock car, with uel header and el header

[Shinchu]

Originally Posted by mav1178

For someone like you, yes it works fine.

I'm mostly talking about those living within walking distance of a tuner in a major metropolitan area.

I grew up here in Southern California, and I can probably fill an entire baseball stadium of people I've dealt with in the last 25 years that are "too cheap to pay for a tune" and yet have no problem dropping thousands of dollars on their mods.

It started back when guys were modding cars with reflashed JWT ECUs on their Nissans. $600 for too expensive for what they wanted, so they just did basic resistor mods. Then the Power FC came out and was wildly popular for the SR20DET swap, guys would buy the $1000 unit and not pay money for a tune, yet have no problem copying someone else's map off the dot matrix display. Then you have AEM, and subsequent "easier" engine management programs to use...

But it's 2017, we all do stuff on computers now...

I was one of the sr20 guys with power fc. Loved it!!!!!
Annnnnnd i want itb kit for my fa20. Nope. NEED.
Oh and cams with tune would be great. Plug n play is fine for me too. Even though im walking distance from a tuner. Er... i think san diego has tuners on every corner now. Right?