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Reaper · 07-20-2014, 01:26 PM

only Subaru builds these boxers right honestly. fullblown, map, etc etc are all pretty damn good and have worked extremely hard to learn the magic of properly assembling a boxer engine. If I needed a short block assembled it would not be by a shop new to boxer engines. Just read frs300's thread about headstuds being hand tight by the same shop.

Model Citizen · 07-20-2014, 01:48 PM

Im mostly amazed tr3 actually finished a car.

AZFA20 · 07-20-2014, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper

only Subaru builds these boxers right honestly.

It's certainly not rocket science either. Subaru has no shortage if internal issues as well with their products. Skill, attention to details, the correct tools, and the ability to follow process is the key. Even the best of engine builders have things go wrong. There are a lot of variables in this game. I am by no means defending the company that did the work because we all know the back stories but as mentioned we also do not know any of the details.

Lonewolf · 07-20-2014, 03:05 PM

People need to post to that page and let all those folks know about toni and FA20 club's exploits...he's killing FA20's left and right!

Reaper · 07-20-2014, 04:08 PM

his crank case vent line isn't attached to anything.

woode · 07-20-2014, 05:00 PM

I can't even really feel bad for these fools going to TR3/Toni/FA20Club anymore.. I know I have personally been banned/kicked out of a few Facebook groups for trying to warn people about going to them, lol. Honestly, I am surprised nobody has gone and burnt down the shop.

sw20kosh · 07-20-2014, 08:53 PM

I learned my lesson a long time ago. I went to a small shady shop because they were offering unbeatable prices on a building my motor and stroking it even. Took them 1 year to finish the motor and when they delivered my vehicle to the dyno shop where my tuner and I were waiting to strap it to the dyno and tune the new motor... they start it up and instantly we hear massive rod knock and it is spewing out smoke.

6 months down the road they finish rebuilding it and it at least ran. It had all sorts of issues and smoked a bit. Issues were getting worse the more I drove it... Ended up just selling the car as is.

ThisGuy919 · 07-20-2014, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by woode

I can't even really feel bad for these fools going to TR3/Toni/FA20Club anymore.. I know I have personally been banned/kicked out of a few Facebook groups for trying to warn people about going to them, lol. Honestly, I am surprised nobody has gone and burnt down the shop.

Unfortunately there are quite a few people who aren't on the forums and it really does suck that some people don't do the research before jumping the gun on a shop. Still feel sorry for those who attend there not knowing there history. Those who know and still go... that's a different story

FirestormFRS · 07-20-2014, 10:36 PM

Disclaimer: I am not defending the shop.

There are more than a few built engines, built buy others that have spun bearings.

cdrazic93 · 07-20-2014, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by s2d4

Which turbo kit?
Who did the install?
Who did the engine build?
Who did the tune?

FA20club kit, TR3 install, TR3 tune, TR3 shit.

cdrazic93 · 07-20-2014, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by FirestormFRS

Disclaimer: I am not defending the shop.

There are more than a few built engines, built buy others that have spun bearings.

the bearing oil feeds, and rods I think are the most concerning parts on this car when it goes under some heavy PSIa on an otherwise stock motor.

cdrazic93 · 07-20-2014, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by AZFA20

It's certainly not rocket science either. Subaru has no shortage if internal issues as well with their products.

ringlands, head gaskets...I have heard of rather fragile hypereutetic pistons, and bad bearing oiling. I'm not sure if that's a boxer motor weak point, as I haven't researched much into the bearings of porsche motors. Even so, the crankcase oiling was much better in EJ motors than it is with this one.

Dipstik-sportech · 07-20-2014, 11:22 PM

Should be posting those pics on their Facebook page and on Instagram and tag them.

s2d4 · 07-21-2014, 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by cdrazic93

FA20club kit, TR3 install, TR3 tune, TR3 shit.

How do you know this?

07-20-2014, 01:26 PM	#15
Reaper in orbe terrum non visi Join Date: Jan 2014 Drives: violent Location: Mountains Posts: 1,747 Thanks: 279 Thanked 762 Times in 446 Posts Mentioned: 62 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	only Subaru builds these boxers right honestly. fullblown, map, etc etc are all pretty damn good and have worked extremely hard to learn the magic of properly assembling a boxer engine. If I needed a short block assembled it would not be by a shop new to boxer engines. Just read frs300's thread about headstuds being hand tight by the same shop. __________________ I have E85 where there isn't E85, that's my secret. http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...t=reaper+build

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Reaper in orbe terrum non visi Join Date: Jan 2014 Drives: violent Location: Mountains Posts: 1,747 Thanks: 279 Thanked 762 Times in 446 Posts Mentioned: 62 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	his crank case vent line isn't attached to anything. __________________ I have E85 where there isn't E85, that's my secret. http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...t=reaper+build

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Dipstik-sportech Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: 2013 BRZ satin white pearl sportech Location: Thunder Bay Ontario Canada Posts: 1,813 Thanks: 842 Thanked 911 Times in 576 Posts Mentioned: 43 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Should be posting those pics on their Facebook page and on Instagram and tag them. __________________ 2013 SWP BRZ sportech. 11.11sec@129.01mph, 511whp on e70. FullBlown base kit, FullBlown built 9.5:1 engine, GTX3076R GEN2 turbo, 1700cc Bosch injectors, FullBlown flex fuel kit, FullBlown radiator and oil cooler, FullBlown custom 3" dual exit exhaust, act xtreme clutch, whiteline diff and subframe inserts, BC Racing coilovers, hotchkiss 18mm rear sway, is300 3.73 differential ... Never finished

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Lonewolf Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: Moped Location: CA Posts: 4,298 Thanks: 4,897 Thanked 2,128 Times in 1,193 Posts Mentioned: 21 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	People need to post to that page and let all those folks know about toni and FA20 club's exploits...he's killing FA20's left and right!

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sw20kosh Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: 2013 Black FR-S Location: SF Posts: 3,030 Thanks: 881 Thanked 2,014 Times in 990 Posts Mentioned: 153 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	I learned my lesson a long time ago. I went to a small shady shop because they were offering unbeatable prices on a building my motor and stroking it even. Took them 1 year to finish the motor and when they delivered my vehicle to the dyno shop where my tuner and I were waiting to strap it to the dyno and tune the new motor... they start it up and instantly we hear massive rod knock and it is spewing out smoke. 6 months down the road they finish rebuilding it and it at least ran. It had all sorts of issues and smoked a bit. Issues were getting worse the more I drove it... Ended up just selling the car as is.

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