2/3 of 86 are auto? - Page 3 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

DandoX · 05-16-2019, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by bkharmony

It's because automatics are better. There's absolutely no use for a clutch in a modern car. The only people who drive manuals are overcompensating for something.

#1 use: being more fun to drive... (drops mic)

Phuviano · 05-16-2019, 02:27 PM

Didn't read the article, but just bought my frs last week. I was looking for a brz/frs maybe for about a month, prior to last week. When looking on auto trader, I would say around 2/3rds were manuals, not auto. When it comes to other cars, I would say itmajority of regular cars like civics, Corolla's or elantras, majority of them were auto, maybe 80-90 percent.

Even when I looked at other sources like Facebook marketplace and kijiji. I still found majority of used brz/frs for sale were manual.

Tcoat · 05-16-2019, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Phuviano

Didn't read the article, but just bought my frs last week. I was looking for a brz/frs maybe for about a month, prior to last week. When looking on auto trader, I would say around 2/3rds were manuals, not auto. When it comes to other cars, I would say itmajority of regular cars like civics, Corolla's or elantras, majority of them were auto, maybe 80-90 percent.

Even when I looked at other sources like Facebook marketplace and kijiji. I still found majority of used brz/frs for sale were manual.

The AT guys like theirs better and don't sell them.

FR-Sky · 05-16-2019, 02:35 PM

That's good, make it rarer.
Maybe 2021 when new gen comes out, there is only auto, and the old gen with manual price spike up.

Silvermk2 · 05-16-2019, 02:55 PM

This is one of those things that is self inflicted IMO. I will only buy a manual transmission cars. Every time I've been to the Toyota dealer they have zero on the lot and I just walk away. I've been trying to find a Corolla hatch or the new body style, but no go. The Honda dealer always has at least a few available. This is in an area with 5 million plus people and Toyota is the best selling brand.

bkharmony · 05-16-2019, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by MuseChaser

Sigh. I like driving manuals. Long past the age of caring about compensating for anything, over- or under-wise. There's no use for well-equipped kitchens with all the great restaurants out there, but some folks like to cook. Why learn to play a useless instrument when you can listen to whatever you want to hear on YouNoob?

"Automatics are better"...in your opinion, for you and the way you enjoy driving. They are not "better" for me. Why would you think that the only possible reason someone may not think exactly like you would indicate some kind of defect in that person?

You think you like a manual better, but you're mistaken. The science is in, and it proves Automatics are better. You can't argue with science.

HachiRokuX · 05-16-2019, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by FR-Sky

That's good, make it rarer.
Maybe 2021 when new gen comes out, there is only auto, and the old gen with manual price spike up.

It better come in manual....

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bkharmony · 05-16-2019, 03:55 PM

PetrolioBenzina · 05-16-2019, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat

The AT guys like theirs better and don't sell them.

MT guys are always seeking more "driver involvement". AT guys just go for a drive.

JD001 · 05-16-2019, 04:06 PM

Way back when the BRZ was released to the UK press for a review in the UK, Subaru only had an automatic!! it got shot down, 3star car, slow, unresponsive and just plain dull.. The MT addressed some of the issues but the AT poor showing was never forgotten.

FR-Sky · 05-16-2019, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by HachiRokuX

It better come in manual....

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Who knows how Toyota will surprise us

2021 2nd gen 86, FA24 240HP turbocharged, but 6-speed automatic transmission only. lol

DandoX · 05-16-2019, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by bkharmony

You think you like a manual better, but you're mistaken. The science is in, and it proves Automatics are better. You can't argue with science.

The science is in and AT is dull. Might as well buy a tesla and let that kart you around so you can get back to doodling on your phone.

The main feature of the car is fun to drive, and MT enhances that fun. Any AT is just less fun than it could be for the sake of being a lazy driver, so if that's better then I'm fine doing it the old not as good way. Sometimes the old fashion way is the most satisfying.

(I'm just givin you AT guys a hard time, I know it has its up sides and is down to the personal preference, that being said...Manual is better)

evoto86 · 05-16-2019, 05:18 PM

Work at a big ]car auction does not surprise a lot of the 86 that come in are autos but after driving one I don't mind them I get why they are popular but manual for me

HKz · 05-16-2019, 05:51 PM

they cherry picking the stats here...the twins have had a MT take rate as high as 60% at one point. every MT enthusiast has already picked one up so it isn't a surprise that after the smoked cleared, the AT variant became the more popular pick probably a good chunk of them being girls...here in AZ I see many women driving the twins, great to see.

I wanna see full global stats with MT/AT %, then we would be looking at a far better picture.

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Phuviano Member Join Date: May 2019 Drives: FRS RS 2.0 #757 Location: Maple, ON, Canada Posts: 61 Thanks: 66 Thanked 25 Times in 18 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Didn't read the article, but just bought my frs last week. I was looking for a brz/frs maybe for about a month, prior to last week. When looking on auto trader, I would say around 2/3rds were manuals, not auto. When it comes to other cars, I would say itmajority of regular cars like civics, Corolla's or elantras, majority of them were auto, maybe 80-90 percent. Even when I looked at other sources like Facebook marketplace and kijiji. I still found majority of used brz/frs for sale were manual.

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JD001 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Drives: Subaru BRZ Location: UK Posts: 6,028 Thanks: 7,652 Thanked 6,187 Times in 3,474 Posts Mentioned: 25 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Way back when the BRZ was released to the UK press for a review in the UK, Subaru only had an automatic!! it got shot down, 3star car, slow, unresponsive and just plain dull.. The MT addressed some of the issues but the AT poor showing was never forgotten.

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evoto86 Senior Member Join Date: May 2017 Drives: manual Toyota 86 Location: NSW Posts: 117 Thanks: 23 Thanked 60 Times in 32 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Work at a big ]car auction does not surprise a lot of the 86 that come in are autos but after driving one I don't mind them I get why they are popular but manual for me

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