AMR Performance: Cold Air Intake System - BRZ/FR-S/GT86 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

AMR · 03-26-2013, 10:18 AM

We would like to thank Richard (brichard0625) for giving us the opportunity to use his vehicle.

Review: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31956

Completely Stock

Disclaimer: (not all dynos read the same)

Richard had lent us his stock FR-S to do some dyno tests as well as product R&D.

The following dyno plot is the vehicle completely stock and the engine up to normal operating tempatures:

As you can see, the results are similiar to what everyone was already expecting. Lets not forget the infamous DIP!

Design

There are plenty of functional designs currently on the market. For those who have used AMR products in the past, you know if you we are going to make a product, it will need to better and different than what is already out there!

We tested different designs, paths, materials, bends, etc.... and our final design lead us with the largest and most consistant gains.

Through the R&D, we found our final design made a extra 6hp increase with no tuning operating at normal driving tempatures as well as an increase in HP and TQ throughout the RPM band.

The largest gains were made:

Pictures to come....

shu5892001 · 03-26-2013, 10:25 AM

So there was a decrease in torque up to 3250 rpm?

Foobar · 03-26-2013, 10:28 AM

Gain looks good. Any AFR logs to go against the plot?

Bottom end torque is worrisome.

Was this right after an ECU reset?

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2forme · 03-26-2013, 10:28 AM

AFR charts? I'd be interested to see if the gains are from design, or leaning...

mad_sb · 03-26-2013, 10:39 AM

I'd like to see AFR plots, stock vs with intake but especially short and long term fuel trims before and after.... they way these cars hold closed loop on the stock tune can create big fuel trim swings that get applied under WOT.

naikaidriver · 03-26-2013, 01:51 PM

I'm curious to see the AFRs as well. Nice results on the torque "dip". I must say I'm surprised an intake would have any effect on that after seeing much of the testing performed over the last several months.

The loss in low-end torque seems consistent with just about every other intake out there though.

Scott

Kodename47 · 03-26-2013, 03:51 PM

Any chances of a picture of the full intake?

2forme · 03-26-2013, 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by naikaidriver

I'm curious to see the AFRs as well. Nice results on the torque "dip". I must say I'm surprised an intake would have any effect on that after seeing much of the testing performed over the last several months.

The loss in low-end torque seems consistent with just about every other intake out there though.

Scott

I didn't lose any low end with the afe ...

naikaidriver · 03-26-2013, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2forme

I didn't lose any low end with the afe ...

As far as I know, only the AFE, FA20 Club and Perrin CAI didn't lose low end. The rest did.

Scott

brichard0625 · 03-26-2013, 05:21 PM

I will say i dont feel any power loss at all down low. If anything the power seems a little smoother when cruising. The one thing that i do like is that you can feel the extra power once you hit 3000-3200 and you never feel like it dies off. It just follows through all the way up to about 7200. Right now i 've been driving it around on the stock tune to really see how it reacts to the stock tune. JV sent me an updated pump gas tune that i will upload tonight before i hit the gym and ill try an do a virtual dyno graph using the mustang dyno setting since the dynadynamics is close to a mustang dyno numbers wise.

6-Shift · 04-11-2013, 11:37 AM

Not to thread jack but is there any data/dynos/etc on the short ram?

03-26-2013, 10:18 AM	#1
AMR Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: Performance Parts Location: NY Posts: 17 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	AMR Performance: Cold Air Intake System - BRZ/FR-S/GT86 We would like to thank Richard (brichard0625) for giving us the opportunity to use his vehicle. Review: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31956 Completely Stock Disclaimer: (not all dynos read the same) Richard had lent us his stock FR-S to do some dyno tests as well as product R&D. The following dyno plot is the vehicle completely stock and the engine up to normal operating tempatures: As you can see, the results are similiar to what everyone was already expecting. Lets not forget the infamous DIP! Design There are plenty of functional designs currently on the market. For those who have used AMR products in the past, you know if you we are going to make a product, it will need to better and different than what is already out there! We tested different designs, paths, materials, bends, etc.... and our final design lead us with the largest and most consistant gains. Through the R&D, we found our final design made a extra 6hp increase with no tuning operating at normal driving tempatures as well as an increase in HP and TQ throughout the RPM band. The largest gains were made: Pictures to come.... __________________ ECUTEK MASTER TUNER "Like us" on Facebook \| Follow us on Twitter \| AMR Stage 1 Package

03-26-2013, 10:39 AM	#5
mad_sb Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Drives: 2013 Asphalt FR-S Location: Orange County Posts: 1,639 Thanks: 632 Thanked 981 Times in 537 Posts Mentioned: 100 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'd like to see AFR plots, stock vs with intake but especially short and long term fuel trims before and after.... they way these cars hold closed loop on the stock tune can create big fuel trim swings that get applied under WOT. __________________ ~Namaste~ 2013 Asphalt FRS

03-26-2013, 01:51 PM	#6
naikaidriver Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S AT Asphalt Location: Lynnwood, WA Posts: 770 Thanks: 145 Thanked 673 Times in 289 Posts Mentioned: 13 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'm curious to see the AFRs as well. Nice results on the torque "dip". I must say I'm surprised an intake would have any effect on that after seeing much of the testing performed over the last several months. The loss in low-end torque seems consistent with just about every other intake out there though. Scott __________________

03-26-2013, 03:51 PM	#7
Kodename47 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: UK GT86 Location: UK Posts: 3,040 Thanks: 185 Thanked 1,629 Times in 1,112 Posts Mentioned: 155 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Any chances of a picture of the full intake? __________________ .: Stealth 86 :. Abbey Motorsport/K47 Tuned Sprintex 210 Supercharger Kodename 47 DJ: Soundcloud / Instagram / Facebook

03-26-2013, 05:21 PM	#10
brichard0625 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: 2013 Scion Frs(Scarlet) Location: Bronx, NY Posts: 907 Thanks: 172 Thanked 386 Times in 177 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I will say i dont feel any power loss at all down low. If anything the power seems a little smoother when cruising. The one thing that i do like is that you can feel the extra power once you hit 3000-3200 and you never feel like it dies off. It just follows through all the way up to about 7200. Right now i 've been driving it around on the stock tune to really see how it reacts to the stock tune. JV sent me an updated pump gas tune that i will upload tonight before i hit the gym and ill try an do a virtual dyno graph using the mustang dyno setting since the dynadynamics is close to a mustang dyno numbers wise. __________________

03-26-2013, 10:25 AM	#2
shu5892001 Ontario's FT86 Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: 2016 Lexus GS-F Location: Toronto Posts: 684 Thanks: 261 Thanked 165 Times in 111 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	So there was a decrease in torque up to 3250 rpm?

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