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Old 10-29-2014, 12:16 PM   #71
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Pro: Car is relatively cheap
Con: Car is relatively cheap

Yeah it's cheap to buy but they cut corners in a lot of places to keep the cost down. If you drive on the highway more than once a week for the first week, you're going to start getting paint chips on the bumper.

Stuff rattles after a few months and with the cold months coming up, it's gonna be creeking and rattling from the cold weather.

This car is not a tank and is quite fragile. This dude got his ass-end forward and hit something at a claimed 5mph and now he can't even open his trunk:

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xQVi8mkZGY"]BRZ FRS Accident - YouTube[/ame]

This car had one purpose and that is to entertain through driving experience and focus on how you receive that entertainment. Everything else is an afterthought.
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Old 10-29-2014, 12:18 PM   #72
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Pro: Car is relatively cheap
Con: Car is relatively cheap

Yeah it's cheap to buy but they cut corners in a lot of places to keep the cost down. If you drive on the highway more than once a week for the first week, you're going to start getting paint chips on the bumper.

Stuff rattles after a few months and with the cold months coming up, it's gonna be creeking and rattling from the cold weather.

This car is not a tank and is quite fragile. This dude got his ass-end forward and hit something at a claimed 5mph and now he can't even open his trunk:



This car had one purpose and that is to entertain through driving experience and focus on how you receive that entertainment. Everything else is an afterthought.
I wonder if he somehow triggered the trunk release lock with the impact... I've had stuff in my trunk nudge the button so that I had to use the little key to unlock the trunk... I really should get something to cap that button off....

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Yep, cheap, front bumper doesn't stay clipped in, after removing or driving fast

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I wonder if he somehow triggered the trunk release lock with the impact... I've had stuff in my trunk nudge the button so that I had to use the little key to unlock the trunk... I really should get something to cap that button off....

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Perhaps. But 5mph is like less than jogging speed. What is that? 8km per hour? Hell, I jog 10km in under 50 minutes.

If what the guy is saying in the video is true, hitting something at a leisure jogging pace in your car can cause your trunk to warp causing a gap between the spoiler and trunk exposing the bolts that bolt the spoiler down, cause your bumper to be completely warped and misaligned and all the tow hook caps to pop out. It might really be the case that the trunk lid is wedged on some part of the car where he can't open it without excessive force.

It was mentioned already that the bottom of the faux defuser where the reverse lights reside is flimsy somewhere in this forum and truth is, it is. A lot of this car is flimsy in hopes to reduce weight. Not complaining about it but it is what it is. It's better than some folks who start drilling holes into their frame to reduce weight anyways without an educated engineer's guess on what else it might affect.

The front wheel arches is protected by a plastic fender liner. If you remove the fender liner, it's a gaping hole into the engine bay. When you make a car that is easily accessible, chances are there are compromises to make it happen.
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Perhaps. But 5mph is like less than jogging speed. What is that? 8km per hour?

If what the guy is saying in the video is true, hitting something at a leisure jogging pace in your car can cause your trunk to warp causing a gap between the spoiler and trunk exposing the bolts that bolt the spoiler down, cause your bumper to be completely warped and misaligned and all the tow hook caps to pop out. It might really be the case that the trunk lid is wedged on some part of the car where he can't open it without excessive force.

It was mentioned already that the bottom of the faux defuser where the reverse lights reside is flimsy somewhere in this forum and truth is, it is. A lot of this car is flimsy in hopes to reduce weight. Not complaining about it but it is what it is. It's better than some folks who start drilling holes into their frame to reduce weight anyways.

The front wheel arches is protected by a plastic fender liner. If you remove the fender liner, it's a gaping hole into the engine bay. When you make a car that is easily accessible, chances are there are compromises to make it happen.
My friend got hit 6x that speed and only got a barely noticeable dent and some paint cracking
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Perhaps. But 5mph is like less than jogging speed. What is that? 8km per hour? Hell, I jog 10km in under 50 minutes.

If what the guy is saying in the video is true, hitting something at a leisure jogging pace in your car can cause your trunk to warp causing a gap between the spoiler and trunk exposing the bolts that bolt the spoiler down, cause your bumper to be completely warped and misaligned and all the tow hook caps to pop out. It might really be the case that the trunk lid is wedged on some part of the car where he can't open it without excessive force.

It was mentioned already that the bottom of the faux defuser where the reverse lights reside is flimsy somewhere in this forum and truth is, it is. A lot of this car is flimsy in hopes to reduce weight. Not complaining about it but it is what it is. It's better than some folks who start drilling holes into their frame to reduce weight anyways without an educated engineer's guess on what else it might affect.

The front wheel arches is protected by a plastic fender liner. If you remove the fender liner, it's a gaping hole into the engine bay. When you make a car that is easily accessible, chances are there are compromises to make it happen.
Let's not forget the fact that what we think of as "cheaply made" is actually a major part of the safety design of cars and has been for decades now.
These (and all new cars) are designed to crumple and absorb impact forces that would otherwise injure or kill a driver or passenger.
Newer car crashes that have horrible looking damage can actually result in everybody walking away, where a crash with a precrumple (my made up word of the day) zone car may leave a really nice intact looking car that is full of corpses.
You hear all the time that "they don't make cars like they used to" and I for one am very glad they don't. I would much rather replace the whole front/rear of a car then be dead, or even worse kill a loved one.
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You hear all the time that "they don't make cars like they used to" and I for one am very glad they don't.
Totally agree. Both my wife and I have been hit by other vehicles while driving '60s vintage Mustangs. Thankfully they were both low-speed collisions. In both cases, the other vehicle was newer and appeared to sustain major damage, while the Mustangs were barely scratched. But we both experienced what could best be described as being a bug in a tin can that gets hit by a golf club-- most of the impact energy gets transferred to the occupant(s), rather than being dissipated by distorting purpose-built crumple zones. It ain't pleasant.
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Perhaps. But 5mph is like less than jogging speed. What is that? 8km per hour? Hell, I jog 10km in under 50 minutes.

If what the guy is saying in the video is true, hitting something at a leisure jogging pace in your car can cause your trunk to warp causing a gap between the spoiler and trunk exposing the bolts that bolt the spoiler down, cause your bumper to be completely warped and misaligned and all the tow hook caps to pop out. It might really be the case that the trunk lid is wedged on some part of the car where he can't open it without excessive force.

It was mentioned already that the bottom of the faux defuser where the reverse lights reside is flimsy somewhere in this forum and truth is, it is. A lot of this car is flimsy in hopes to reduce weight. Not complaining about it but it is what it is. It's better than some folks who start drilling holes into their frame to reduce weight anyways without an educated engineer's guess on what else it might affect.

The front wheel arches is protected by a plastic fender liner. If you remove the fender liner, it's a gaping hole into the engine bay. When you make a car that is easily accessible, chances are there are compromises to make it happen.

Notwithstanding crumple zones, I have noticed that sometimes, if my trunk is say, moderately full of gear, and I take a turn a little sharper, the trunk can actually release itself. It won't spring open, but the latch is open, and you'll see the "door open" indicator light on the dash.
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Notwithstanding crumple zones, I have noticed that sometimes, if my trunk is say, moderately full of gear, and I take a turn a little sharper, the trunk can actually release itself. It won't spring open, but the latch is open, and you'll see the "door open" indicator light on the dash.
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Notwithstanding crumple zones, I have noticed that sometimes, if my trunk is say, moderately full of gear, and I take a turn a little sharper, the trunk can actually release itself. It won't spring open, but the latch is open, and you'll see the "door open" indicator light on the dash.
Sounds like you need the TRD Trunk Latch Stabilizer.. MSRP $799.99
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Sounds like you need the TRD Trunk Latch Stabilizer.. MSRP $799.99
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The "chirp" noise is caused by the ethanol gas.
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For blind spots, anyone who has major blind spots has their side mirrors adjusted incorrectly. Your side mirror should pick up a car just as it's leaving the rear view mirror, and once it leaves the side mirror you can do a head check and see the car directly. You'll have very very minor blind spots immediately next to your rear wheels, but nothing big enough to fit a car into.
The car still has a wicked blind spot even if you have the mirrors adjusted correctly. The problem is not cars in the lane next to you. If you adjust your mirrors correctly, you'll see a car continuously as it approaches you from behind and passes you on either side.

The blind spot is in the next lane over. There's a cone of blindness that starts around the rear fender well and expands outward. A car in the lane next to you is larger than this cone, so you can see it. A car in the next lane over can fit in the cone so that it's pretty much invisible. If you and the guy two lanes over both decide to take the center lane at the same time, you can't see him until he suddenly appears out of that blind spot, at which time you may already be trading paint.
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