Stainless steel brake line upgrade?

[Dave-ROR]

Whichever you get just make sure they are Teflon coated/in a Teflon sleeve.

[OrbitalEllipses]

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

Whichever you get just make sure they are Teflon coated/in a Teflon sleeve.

And make sure you check clearance through the range of travel, droop, and motion.

[CSG David]

Originally Posted by PMok

Thanks for the PM David! Yeah I guess I kind of knew they would all do the same thing. BTW I didn't mention that I have a set of Porterfield SS lines on my MR2. Not sure if they make any for BRZ/FRS yet though.

Anyways I guess the kind of feedback I'm looking for is more, which ones are DOT approved or street legal vs. race/offroad only, which ones are easier to install or have OEM fitment/quality vs purely functional/ziptie fitment haha.

DOT approved and DOT compliant have been used kind of loosely in the industry. It's more important to find out how companies spend their time and effort to quality test their product as well as how they are designed. Just like Dave and orbital stated, those are some things to look into as well. The Spiegler ones we have are being used on our car with the Essex AP Racing kit and we have been running them for about ~10k miles with track days almost every weekend since November. They have held up quite well and we have had no issues thus far.

[OrbitalEllipses]

Originally Posted by CSG David

DOT approved and DOT compliant have been used kind of loosely in the industry. It's more important to find out how companies spend their time and effort to quality test their product as well as how they are designed. Just like Dave and orbital stated, those are some things to look into as well. The Spiegler ones we have are being used on our car with the Essex AP Racing kit and we have been running them for about ~10k miles with track days almost every weekend since November. They have held up quite well and we have had no issues thus far.

Spiegler lines should have slightly different fittings compared to your run of the mill aftermarket lines, though I can't confirm that. I went ahead and added the rears to my order, though oddly I believe Goodridge fronts are provided with my Formula kit.

[CSG David]

Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

Spiegler lines should have slightly different fittings compared to your run of the mill aftermarket lines, though I can't confirm that. I went ahead and added the rears to my order, though oddly I believe Goodridge fronts are provided with my Formula kit.

Goodridge is part of the Formula kit. The Formula kit is generally tailored to the guys who want to primarily run a street setup so the setup doesn't have to be the pinnacle of performance like the Competition kit. Jeff Ritter from Essex posted all the facts about them. The Competition kits come with the Spiegler lines.

[OrbitalEllipses]

Which is why I added Spiegler rears to my order. Because the Goodridge fronts are included with my Formula kit, like I said.

It appears the Goodridge lines include an external sheath, though I'm not sure if they're coated.

[CSG David]

Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

Which is why I added Spiegler rears to my order. Because the Goodridge fronts are included with my Formula kit, like I said.

It appears the Goodridge lines include an external sheath, though I'm not sure if they're coated.

Should not have any issues at all.

[OrbitalEllipses]

Originally Posted by CSG David

Should not have any issues at all.

I followed that kit's development from day 1. I might just know as much as you do about it.

[Hanakuso]

I've always liked Goodridge and i'm running them, but I do wish they made there "Phantom" series for our car. That series has the external coating that probably helps with wear/tear. I also like Goodridge because a lot of shops and teams use them, specifically ASM Autobacs

[cslntuee]

How’s your opinion for mastercylinder brace?

Is that using for daily drive?

Thanks.

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

To improve braking, I'd go:
1. Tires

Then if you need higher temp pads or want more initial bite add pads and fluid if temps are a concern.

You should never be capable of boiling fluid on the street where most of these cars live, nor getting pad fade unless you are doing something wrong.

For a track car, I'd go:
1. Tires.
2. Essex Comp Sprint kit or similar with track pads and fluid
3. SS lines (I still haven't bothered to install mine) - for feel only which is the only benefit you'll see. There is no real performance benefit.

[edocura]

I've actually heard that SS lines are great additions, but due to the fact that you can't visually inspect them adequately - since you can't see through SS to spot wear, etc. - they end up being kind of dangerous on the street (as opposite to tracking situations where you end up replacing them often enough to make the maintenance not an issue).

There are many long posts written about this in a lot of forums. Most seem to refer to this page: http://www.nsxprime.com/wiki/Brake_Lines

Thoughts?

[Blue86]

Hmm well I'm about to put goodridge lines on my other car which will be primarily a road car. I'll take my chances

[RAWR BRZ]

+1 on tires first. I wanted to use up my stock tires so i did pads, fluids, lines and abs was going crazy and could only use like 50% full braking force... Maybe even less.

[SubieNate]

Originally Posted by edocura

I've actually heard that SS lines are great additions, but due to the fact that you can't visually inspect them adequately - since you can't see through SS to spot wear, etc. - they end up being kind of dangerous on the street (as opposite to tracking situations where you end up replacing them often enough to make the maintenance not an issue).

There are many long posts written about this in a lot of forums. Most seem to refer to this page: http://www.nsxprime.com/wiki/Brake_Lines

Thoughts?

Wear? As long as you get ones that are in a teflon sleeve you're pretty much golden.

Most of the bad things with SS lines happen with cheap ones that have the SS exposed on the outside. Grit gets in the weave and as the suspension moves it rubs against both the SS weave and the polymer tube on the inside. Eventually one fails and you have a problem. With sleeved/coated lines you should have zero issues.

Nathan