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I was sold on the frs when I sat in it the first time and the salesman took me to some windy roads for a test drive. He did a great job of highlighting what make the twins so much fun to drive. However you need to ask yourself what kind of driving you will be doing with the car and what you tend to enjoy most while doing so. My purposes with my frs had me commuting to work and a fun weekend car. However I live in Cheyenne Wyoming where twisty roads are a scarcity and the high altitude didn't do the lack of power in the frs any favors. Long story short in those conditions I just wasn't having any fun with it and more often then not found myself frustrated with the power. I ended up trading it in on a mustang gt and haven't looked back. I had reservations about the power when I first bought the frs and these reservation turned out to be justified in my particular case. My recommendation is to be honest with yourself. I could have saved myself $5k had a been more honest with myself from the beginning.
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I drove a new Civic Si yesterday.
More power than the 86. Quieter than the 86. Easier to see out of. Slight turbo lag. Nice shifter, yet not as direct as 86. Comfortable seats. Possibly more standard equipment than 86. Is cheaper than an 86 at just over $24,000. Sorry though, just does not fit my body or my mental state as well as the 86. I just don't feel like a kid with a toy the way I do in an 86. |
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Oh, and you recommend a normal Civic that has even LESS torque than the BRZ... Quote:
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I wish my BRZ was quieter at this point. I knew I should have bought the header first not second. E85 tune only makes it's louder. Sports cars are always hard to see out of, the twins are very good in this area, but not compared to normal econoboxes. Turbo will always have some lag, made worse by restrictive factory exhaust to shut them up. I'd be curious to see how well these Si's can be modified compared to the old Hondas. FWD shifters are always terrible. Lots of people complain of "notchness" of a direct shifter, but those people aren't car people and would never understand the love of gated shifters of old. BRZ seats would be better with adjustable lumbar, my only complaint. They're 9/10th a racing seat in their shape so you either fit them or not, which can be an issue. Yep, ultimately it's a supped up econobox and not a bespoke performance car. This same issue crops up in every other car in this segment except for the Miata/Fiat Spider. Some are worse than others though, like the boring GTI... |
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The GTI is an absolutely fantastic car, and not comparable at all to a twin or a Miata. Yes, like all hot hatches, it is based off of an economy car and therefore does not have the sporty potential of a ground up design like a twin. It still does what it was built for very well, and a heck of a lot better than any other hot hatch I might add. These cars aren't really even in the same segment in terms of anything other than price point. Even the twins and the Miata hardly fit together but hot hatches are nowhere near it. |
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Wow, that many miles in that short of time! You might just want to hold onto that Prius, as it will save you hundreds of dollars every year, versus going with a Civic or BRZ that you have to put 91+ octane in it, for 30-34 mpg.
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But the torque though lmao
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"Buy me, buy me, buy me now" feeling you get when you sit in a twin.
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So you offer a ride to a bunch of people you can't really stand or you pay an extra toll to use the express lane, only to be stuck watching the traffic in the "slow" lanes passing you. Everyone would be better off if they just got rid of the restrictions and made it a regular travel lane. |
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My question would be why would you buy a DD you don't enjoy driving, particularly if you can only own one car, given this is where you will spend the majority of your driving time?
The vast majority of all cars, not just the 86, when purchased new are daily drivers. Yes, some people buy new cars as a "toy" but it's really pretty rare particularly in a car that sells in the volume of the 86 (which, while not in Mustang/Camaro league in terms of sales still is produced in relatively large numbers for a sports car). There is nothing about the 86 that makes it a non-daily driver to me (I've done that for almost 110K miles now). It's fun to drive, great on gas mileage, and hauls everything I need to get back and forth to work, plus some. No reason for me to buy another similar car (in size, capability) just because it has a few more doors are a little more legroom. Not to mention I can pretty much carry anything in an 86 I could carry in a Civic.
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Or have the right lane only law and enforce it! A truck doing 70.5 mph passing one doing 70.3 mph and blocking the left lane for miles is one of my few triggers for road rage.
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Also, carpool lanes are stupid as fuck. It's just a lane that has one car per mile in it, and those drivers are almost always the kind of stupid ****heads that think, "My car has more than one person in it, ergo I must drive in the carpool lane," then proceed to occupy the carpool lane at a speed lower than that of the traffic around them. God I hate people a lot. They are really bad at cars. |
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