Can the Front be Back-Dated?

[A&F]

We live in a weird time - where it's cheaper to buy a new car and wait a few weeks then to buy a 9 year old junker.



Seems like the going rate for a FR-S/86 is $!8-25k while a new GR86 is still in under $30k.



I don't like the cosmetic updates. I hate the front. I can see the rear will not be able to be back dated due to the tail lights cutting into the rear quarter.



What about the front? The old Subaru GD cars, the fronts could easily be swapped between the three face lifts.



Fenders, bumper, headlights and side skirts?



What about the digital cluster? Has anyone pulled it? I'm guessing the ECU changed and it can't be backed dated.

[p1l0t]

There are plenty of aftermarket body kits too

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[HKz]

I mean if you see the rear end is totally different what makes you think front end is any different? even if you replace fenders + hood + headlights + bumper, still not going to fit around the doors + side skirts which were integrated into the chassis with 1st gen and now a totally separate piece with the 2nd.

Of course given enough money you can make this work but it will require plenty of modifications like what these folks who have grafted the 1st gen front end onto other cars..

[A&F]

Originally Posted by p1l0t

There are plenty of aftermarket body kits too

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For the Gen2? I've not seen any.

[p1l0t]

Originally Posted by A&F

For the Gen2? I've not seen any.

Por Exemplar

https://86speed.com/greddy-pandem-20...xoCJ4EQAvD_BwE

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[p1l0t]

Also I'm sure in like a year there will be 5x as many and cheap

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[A&F]

Originally Posted by p1l0t

Por Exemplar

https://86speed.com/greddy-pandem-20...xoCJ4EQAvD_BwE

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As expected from Greddy X Pandemic, that is god damn awful.

[p1l0t]

Originally Posted by A&F

As expected from Greddy X Pandemic, that is god damn awful.

That's not my point though. You buy used to save money. If it isn't saving you money just buy new. The woe is me front bumper I don't like it can be changed later. I wouldn't buy a used car for a savings of less than what the maintenance would be just because of one of the easiest parts to replace on the car is.

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[HKz]

look up vids & pics of most recent tokyo auto salon for a bunch of different custom front bumpers for the 2nd gen.. there are a few threads in here that covered the show. I prefer stock front end, I think looks just as good as 1st gen but kuhl has a couple front ends that are pretty fun to look at.

[A&F]

Originally Posted by p1l0t

That's not my point though. You buy used to save money. If it isn't saving you money just buy new. The woe is me front bumper I don't like it can be changed later. I wouldn't buy a used car for a savings of less than what the maintenance would be just because of one of the easiest parts to replace on the car is.

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Well you missed my point. At no point did a I mention "Saving Money". Only that used prices seem to be idiotic.



First Gen -

Pros :

Front End + Headlights
Center Tach / Analog Gauge Cluster
Rear End + Tail Lights


Cons:

Flat-4*
5x100


2nd Gen -



Pros :


Cons:

Front end + headlights
Front Fenders (I hate vented fenders on everything)
Rear End + tail lights
Digital Cluster
Side Skirts
Flat-4*
5x100
Fake exhaust noises







*Flat-4 - First Gen has a torque dip, only makes 200hp and is known to eat road bearings and grenade the whole engine. Engines are also expesnive, $4k-$5k. 2nd Gen seems to fix the torque dip, ads the needed horsepower people have cried about for 10 years... but its still an FA-x Flat-4 and I suspect we'll still be seeing bearing failures. I've never considered the Subaru engines to be all that great. They've never been 4G63, B-series, K-series, SR20, 3G-SE great.

[p1l0t]

Originally Posted by A&F

Well you missed my point. At no point did a I mention "Saving Money". Only that used prices seem to be idiotic.



First Gen -

Pros :

Front End + Headlights
Center Tach / Analog Gauge Cluster
Rear End + Tail Lights


Cons:

Flat-4*
5x100


2nd Gen -



Pros :


Cons:

Front end + headlights
Front Fenders (I hate vented fenders on everything)
Rear End + tail lights
Digital Cluster
Side Skirts
Flat-4*
5x100
Fake exhaust noises







*Flat-4 - First Gen has a torque dip, only makes 200hp and is known to eat road bearings and grenade the whole engine. Engines are also expesnive, $4k-$5k. 2nd Gen seems to fix the torque dip, ads the needed horsepower people have cried about for 10 years... but its still an FA-x Flat-4 and I suspect we'll still be seeing bearing failures. I've never considered the Subaru engines to be all that great. They've never been 4G63, B-series, K-series, SR20, 3G-SE great.

Well then we are arguing the same point and preaching to the choir. Just buy a new one and figure out the bumper later.

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[gskv]

so...buy a different car? lol

these cars have a ton of short coming. the only benefit of them is that they're rwd and cheap to fix.

i bought this car because it's rwd, cheap to fix, cheap to run. there's a hell lot of things that suck in this car, but it does one thing well.

[Quentin]

It would be really stupid to take a brand new car and hack it up. Sounds like you don’t really like the twins (either gen) that much anyway. Get something else that you won’t have to extensively modify.

Or be patient and let things normalize a bit.

[soundman98]

1st gen has piped in motor noise and 16+ has the lcd in the gauge cluster...