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Old 08-08-2017, 02:15 PM   #29
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For simplicity's sake, to look nice, sound nice, and go fast. My car is a daily, and sometimes I do the occasional drive up fifty or so miles through some mountain roads. So, not sure exactly what you mean by these suggestions being useless.

Quick edit: I also have plans to track in the future.
Air filter, header and exhaust will sound great and help the engine breathe better at higher RPM. But if you really want to go fast on those mountain roads or the race track you should look at upgrading the tires, suspension and brakes.

Try checking out the build section and look at people who track their cars.
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Nope, according to dealership. My dealership specifically said aftermarket header the warranty will not be honored. As for drop in filter there's one available for 2017 models. Blitz I think is the brand
Oh man, thats like playing Super Mario Bros. and quitting at the first goombah - magnusson-moss is what you use to fight bowser! The dealerships are just minions, they just want to charge you, then they'll probably bill it as a warranty repair anyways. They probably want to avoid liability by removing/reinstalling a part. If you want to minimize the fight just swap the stock manifold back on.

Escalate it; the burden of proof is on the dealer, they have to prove that the part in question is unequivocally the cause of failure.
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So I did a quick read through on this thread, one thing I didn't see is what your goals are with the mods, and how much risk you are willing to accept with regards to reliability.

You mentioned you're relatively new to modding, so I'm not sure how quickly you want to get into this. In general, higher risk will net higher reward. If you're looking to just dip your feet into the pool--you will be looking at things like catback exhausts, wheels, drop ins, basically what a lot of people have mentioned--but they won't net you a lot of HP or tangible gains.

On the other hand, if you want to jump straight into the pool--you would be looking at headers, OFT / tuning, stuff that would add some noticeable performance gains to the car. However, these kinds of gains have inherent risks (i.e. emissions issues, chance to get a poor tune, unrelated engine issues that could get you in lengthy 'discussions' with dealerships on warranty validity).

If you're just nuts and have money to burn you can always go forced induction...but you're almost guaranteed to have some kind issues with that as time goes on. Since you mentioned <$1000 for the part, i'm assuming that this isn't your situation.

These are all assuming that you just want to pull some more power and what not out of your car for street driving. However, if you are looking for track performance it's likely that you'd go a different route (one that starts with HPDE and likely involves a focus on suspension parts).

This is just my perspective though. I've chosen the slow and cautious route--had the car for 5 years this month, and I'll finally be doing header+tune next month. Up to this point it's been exhaust from the header back, TRD springs, drop in filter, and short throw shifter. All of which I'd highly recommend, but my goals may be different from yours.

Edit : forgot one of my most important mods--DASHCAM. Srsly.
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Old 08-08-2017, 03:44 PM   #32
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I can only tell what I did regarding mods.

I didn't do any performance mods initially. I only did some little cosmetic changes like JDM exhaust tips, tires, wheels while enjoying and knowing the car better. After a long while, I decided that the best bet was JRSC + oil cooler with the stock engine. Getting 50% more power overnight was more like a transformation than modification. I think it was the right decision for me. I still don't plan any exhaust, E85, or other modifications. I feel like I am done with modifying this car. I will just enjoy and maintain it in the following years.
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Old 08-08-2017, 03:48 PM   #33
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Catbacks do nothing for performance they just sound like they do.

What are your plans for using the car? Unless you have the exact same goals and plans as others then all the suggestions you will get are just a waste of time.
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For simplicity's sake, to look nice, sound nice, and go fast. My car is a daily, and sometimes I do the occasional drive up fifty or so miles through some mountain roads. So, not sure exactly what you mean by these suggestions being useless.

Quick edit: I also have plans to track in the future.
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So I did a quick read through on this thread, one thing I didn't see is what your goals are with the mods, and how much risk you are willing to accept with regards to reliability.

You mentioned you're relatively new to modding, so I'm not sure how quickly you want to get into this. In general, higher risk will net higher reward. If you're looking to just dip your feet into the pool--you will be looking at things like catback exhausts, wheels, drop ins, basically what a lot of people have mentioned--but they won't net you a lot of HP or tangible gains.

On the other hand, if you want to jump straight into the pool--you would be looking at headers, OFT / tuning, stuff that would add some noticeable performance gains to the car. However, these kinds of gains have inherent risks (i.e. emissions issues, chance to get a poor tune, unrelated engine issues that could get you in lengthy 'discussions' with dealerships on warranty validity).

If you're just nuts and have money to burn you can always go forced induction...but you're almost guaranteed to have some kind issues with that as time goes on. Since you mentioned <$1000 for the part, i'm assuming that this isn't your situation.

These are all assuming that you just want to pull some more power and what not out of your car for street driving. However, if you are looking for track performance it's likely that you'd go a different route (one that starts with HPDE and likely involves a focus on suspension parts).

This is just my perspective though. I've chosen the slow and cautious route--had the car for 5 years this month, and I'll finally be doing header+tune next month. Up to this point it's been exhaust from the header back, TRD springs, drop in filter, and short throw shifter. All of which I'd highly recommend, but my goals may be different from yours.

Edit : forgot one of my most important mods--DASHCAM. Srsly.

Pretty much normal DD type stuff for now.
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Old 08-08-2017, 03:51 PM   #34
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The tuner (William Knose of Delicious Tuning) who tuned my car said I could get 10 more HP if I put the stock exhaust back on. They say the TRD is more restrictive. They said they cut apart a TRD and the pipes are actually smaller. I'm still keeping mine. I love the sound and the look. I have enough HP.
Sorry guys,I was going off the top of my head trying to remember this video from Everyday Driver
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iM_QmVF2-fQ"]Searching for Torque - Header & Exhaust - FR-S Long Term #4 - Everyday Driver - YouTube[/ame]

I guess I'm a little more practical and would rather spend $1000+ on something else,not even car related,than something that just gives you sound and an ever so slight increase in torque and HP.
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Old 08-08-2017, 03:53 PM   #35
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If you're just nuts and have money to burn you can always go forced induction
That is not true at all. To me, my best decision was to skip everything else and go directly to JRSC. I can't tell how happy I am with it.
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Old 08-08-2017, 05:12 PM   #36
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Nope, according to dealership. My dealership specifically said aftermarket header the warranty will not be honored. As for drop in filter there's one available for 2017 models. Blitz I think is the brand
There's two available, Works and Blitz. I made a thread on them awhile ago asking other MY17 owners if they had either and the thread was basically a ghost town, so I did some research myself, I don't think the Blitz is a resuable, whereas the Works can be cleaned and reused indefinitely if cleaned properly, so I'm gonna go for the Works.
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That is not true at all. To me, my best decision was to skip everything else and go directly to JRSC. I can't tell how happy I am with it.
Didn't mean to imply that it wouldn't make them happy. I would love one of those myself...but for someone who is literally just getting into modding as the OP is, that's pretty out there. And pricey.
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Pretty much normal DD type stuff for now.
Good catch. As I said, skimmed through it while at work...obviously missed that part xD
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I guess I'm a little more practical and would rather spend $1000+ on something else,not even car related,than something that just gives you sound and an ever so slight increase in torque and HP.
It's nice to be at a point in life where I can be impractical once in a while and not worry about it. There is nothing practical about my supercharged twin. It oozes impracticality. I love driving it.
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Instead of spending thousands on new wheels, paint the stock wheels black or white. Actually looks pretty good.

An axle back exhaust to open up the sound of the engine too.

For the interior, adding a sub helps the stock system to not suck so much.

Those are the mods I have done so far. I don't feel like it needs anything, but it is nice to have some extras.
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A catback does nothing for performance but a header and tune will show some gains.
If the TRD catback exhaust has any effect on the torque I have never noticed it. The improved sound is worth every penny to me though.
exhaust will definitely have performance gains if coupled with a header, esp catless. if you don't have a header then the cat is the bottleneck for exhaust flow so opening up the exhaust afterwards doesn't do much, but if you have a header the stock exhaust is going to be a little restrictive.

fwiw i have a lachute exhaust on a car with the stock cat/headers and i know it doesn't really have a performance effect, but i agree the sound is worth it.
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exhaust will definitely have performance gains if coupled with a header, esp catless. if you don't have a header then the cat is the bottleneck for exhaust flow so opening up the exhaust afterwards doesn't do much, but if you have a header the stock exhaust is going to be a little restrictive.

fwiw i have a lachute exhaust on a car with the stock cat/headers and i know it doesn't really have a performance effect, but i agree the sound is worth it.
That is more or less what I said. I just used less and different words. The stock cat back exhaust would not have much of an impact (doubt if even measurable) even with a header but that stock exhaust has such a weak sound I don't think even a header would help much.
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